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The Stygian and his Shemitish Dogs

Linking to a previous article in Broadsides (Hitler would have loved your pretty white babies- I'm sure you can guess which links I was following), I recall that every October I permit myself a chuckle, during "Women's History Month".

The "Famous Five" women in the "Persons Case" are honoured by Francophone, Irish, Catholic, etc. feminists, blithely oblivious to the fact that the "Famous Five" themselves were in favour of sterilisation of many members of these groups. If the "Famous Five" had had their way, a lot of these feminists simply wouldn't exist.

They get quite ratty when it's pointed out to them ,,,,,,,

There's a similar memory loss with Hitler "Hitler would have loved your pretty white babies" is, to a great extent, nonsense. Think of all the Poles, Latvians, Ukrainians, Jews too in this context, etc. swept up in his murderous spree. ....

Then recall that as mass murderers go, Hitler was only third in line, after Mao and Stalin, so it is somewhat of a mystery (actually, it isn't really) why he's so often singled out as the pitome of evil.
BUT
If you ask "who was the greatest murderer of "Whites/Europeans", etc.?", he moves up into SECOND place (again, behind Stalin).

One piece of Nazi grotesquerie involves a rather worried letter from an SS man in the Polish Corridor in late 1939 to Himmler saying "We're deporting all these blonde Poles and replacing them with darker "Germans". Shurely shome mishtake ...."

Himmler's response is not known.

And I haven't begun to touch on the links between Margaret Sanger and Hitler......

Maybe the person who inspired this discussion was corrupted by his time in Oswiecim .........

PS Am I really the first to comment . . . . . . . .

sooey

The political right has infinite excuses to deny women the rights of people (i.e. men). And the unborn is just another one - which handily trumps even her right to control over her own reproduction. It's ironic how intrusive the right believes the State should be where women are concerned, isn't it?

But fair's fair, I suppose, with regard to the people who object to Dr. Morgentaler's appointment to the Order of Canada. Afterall, I'm not impressed with the Men of God named to the Order who have made restricting human rights here on Earth their mission, either.

Of course, I include women and gay people in my definition of human because I'm a Feminist and not a Holy Man.

The Stygian and his Shemitish Dogs

etymologically, fetus is the same word as deti, dzieci, deta, etc., in Slavic languages (from Indo-European *dhe-, which also gives us femina in Latin, etc.), meaning .... CHILDREN .. maybe the connection is closer than "pro-choicers" would have us believe.

and while we're on the subject of "choice", I put it in quotation marks to ask:

are we seeing semantic change where choice means "infanticide", etc.

so-called "pro-choicers" are often the same ones opposed to choice in schools, choice in healthcare, choice in where tax dollars go (compulsory welfare instead of private charity), freedom of association, etc., etc.

and if the CBC really belongs to all Canadians, why can I not choose to sell my shares?


Jacquie Fraser

Why is it that women have to constantly fight men on every front? Our foremothers had to fight for us to get the right to vote; to be able to attend higher education; to be able to work for a living AFTER having children.
Since when is it any man's business if I choose to abort a baby? There are many women who do because they realise they will not be in a position to handle the burden for the rest of their lives.

I suggest to religious fanatics and pro-lifers that unless YOU are willing to help raise the unwanted child, keep your nose out of that woman's life. The last thing women need is someone guilt-tripping them and painting a picture that is anything but rosy.

As for those within the Catholic faith: here is where the pot is calling the kettle black. Explain to us why it was ok for nuns and priests to shack up secretly, have babies and thus bury them in unmarked graves - only to be dug up years after the fact. Yes, this happened on the east coast many years ago. Why is it ok to bury a newborn but not abort it before it's born??????

deBeauxOs

Even though they're are barely intelligible and quite abhorent, thank you for posting the comments from "The Stygian and his Shemitish Dogs". It's important for people to read the rantings of individuals who would prevent physicians from providing safe health care and force women to carry unintended pregnancies to term or to resort to life-endangering back-street abortions.

Creeps like him don't seem to understand that when pregnant women die as a result of illegal abortions, the fetus does not survive.

mozo

stygian wrote: "The "Famous Five" women in the "Persons Case" are honoured by Francophone, Irish, Catholic, etc. feminists, blithely oblivious to the fact that the "Famous Five" themselves were in favour of sterilisation of many members of these groups. If the "Famous Five" had had their way, a lot of these feminists simply wouldn't exist."

That's okay because the all knowing men did it for them. If I recall correctly the Alberta government did it into the 1970's.

If you want to dig into the past of any "hero" you find warts and sometimes worse. And it's always worse when you try to apply current morals/ethics/popular thought to different eras.

Mary Sunshine

Yes, the religious right is on the march in Canada. They've had overwhelming success in the USA. In a country that will elect Harper to power, abortion rights are very much under the gun.

Women need to go back to female solidarity here, and reclaim the know-how to perform abortions for each other outside the realm of male control.

It doesn't work to plead for freedom - we need to take it.

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