Why bloggers quit.
The average blog lasts about two months, the experts say, which makes me rather proud of our effort (mine and yours) to keep this one going since 2009. Why the remarkably high turnover, among the estimated 200 million blogs extant at any given time?
There's the non-existent pay (Star bloggers are not paid a dime extra for doing so, which means they're volunteers online; ditto my peers at other papers); the same back-breaking research in blogging is required as of traditional print and broadcast journalists if you're to be taken seriously; and there's the demoralizing effect of accumulating over two months a total audience of 9, including family and friends. (Most spouses and other partners wisely refuse to read them for reasons I expect are obvious.)
Then there's the feedback. This, actually, is what I believe to be representative online feedback to traditional print publication stories online, not blogs (and it's verbatim, I've not cleaned them up):
"Oh stop You Americans believe all the drivel about cammoron.
he lied & continues to lie to you pure & simple." –Daily Telegraph, Feb. 26. The reference here is to the austerity budget of British PM David Cameron, who in addition to being heartless is apparently a serial liar. A fellow commenter, identifying himself as a Yank, had dared defend the PM."I'll betcha over half of the 83 DPL employees who will be cut own or lease imported vehicles (you know, those 5 million vehicles dumped on our west-coast last year) and could care less regarding the TAX BASE that paid their salary." –Detroit Free Press, Feb. 27. This refers to major layoffs at the Detroit Public Library system. What kind of vehicle a librarian drives is apparently relevant to whether he or she deserves a job. Possibly a valid point, but only if said public servants - or the entire working population of Greater Detroit or, indeed, Michigan, were told on hiring that this was a condition of employment.
"Big government who feeds off unions and taxpayers - is the big problem. Corporations can only take your money when you give it to them." -Time, Feb. 27. Actually, big corporations suck billions from the state in corporate welfare - $6 billion for the profit-engorged U.S. oil industry alone last year - and you just don't hear about it. After all, K Street isn't overpopulated with lobyyists for NGOs, but for ExxonMobil and the Koch brothers. You don't hear so much about the corporate squandering of vast sums because, like families, they are accorded a privacy governments are denied. Governments do plenty we'd like to know more about - and deserve to as citizens and taxpayers - but as a 30-year business journalist I can tell you with some authority that business is vastly more opaque than government.
"Government takes your money in many many ways and it gets worse every year. Obama wants $1.65 trillion ($5500 per US citizen) this year alone - there is no valid reason for it except political corruption." –Chicago Tribune, Feb. 27. This in response to a story about the Wisconsin fight to protect collective-bargaining, which for the commenter segues into invariably corrupt pols and budgeting at a different level of government altogether. Economics 101 tells you a huge chunk of what Obama's budget seeks is merely for servicing the existing, pre-Obama debt. Which any president would be obliged to do, given that today's world bond markets fear America may someday renege on its increasingly unmanageable debt, as long as it keeps forsaking revenue it "gifts" to its wealthiest citizens.
"Be it federal, provincial or local, politicians and their boards are no better then organic goo. Our elected officals have already proven that we are only a democracy until they say were not. Things will get worse." –Toronto Star, Feb 27. The reference is to a local-government housing authority with governance woes - an opportunity to bash all things government. The reader, not well-traveled, has the sense that democracy in Canada is akin to that in Zimbabwe or pre-Mubarak Egypt.
These are some of today's milder, more logical comments. Publications of course have "screens" to block profanity and most forms of racial and other epithets. But not idiocy, alas.
One does want, at least sometimes, to respond to the more rabid comments. But in a one-person shop, there simply isn't time. As Lincoln said, "If I were to read, much less respond, to all the complaints I receive I would not have time to honor the chief obligations of my office."
I hope more publications adopt Politics Daily's recently posted "Approach to Comments":
In an effort to encourage the same level of civil dialogue among Politics Daily's readers that we expect of our writers - a 'civilogue', to use the term coined by PD's Jeffrey Weiss - we are requiring commenters to use their AOL or AIM screen names to submit a comment, and we are reading all comments before publishing them. Personal attacks (on writers, other readers, Nancy Pelosi, George W. Bush, or anyone at all) and comments that are not productive additions to the conversation will not be published, period, to make room for a discussion among those with ideas to kick around.
That's a lot of room for screeners with itchy fingers, but there's a helpful PD guideline section to ensure one's constructive comments, no matter how unorthodox, are heard in this public square.
Which brings me to why I've kept blogging past my May 2009 sell-by date. I may be negligent in not responding promptly to your commentary, but I absorb it and it influences what I write about and how I do so. And of course it's of immense benefit to all readers. So I appreciate the time you take to amplify, dispute, and correct "facts" that aren't facts at all!
The notion of "civilogue" doesn't apply to this blog, whose comments are something of an oasis of civility and common sense that is an exception among most of the scores of online publications I peruse. Thank you again for that. I did just want you to have your suspicions confirmed that one reason so many blogs are short-lived is that most bloggers take the hurtful comments seriously, and find after awhile it's just not worth the abuse.
In addition to, in my case, the constant harassment from Gus, who would prefer that this blog become wholly pictorial in nature.









Difference between comments on mainstream media sites and blogging sites, is that bloggers care about comments.
If a blogger had enough comments that a simple commenting system like this one was being overwhelmed with one that does a better job are promoting dialog (threading) and intelligence. Mainstream media sites just don't seem to care enough about comments to bother. I made this point here recently: http://thestar.blogs.com/davidolive/2011/02/i-was-interested-in-perusing-the-comments-on-chryslers-terrific-super-bowl-ad-yesterday-touching-on-the-revival-of-both-chry.html?cid=6a00d8341bf8f353ef0148c86af135970c#comment-6a00d8341bf8f353ef0148c86af135970c
As for anonymity I don't think it is as big a deal as people think. If anything it promotes honesty and complaining about it just an ad hominem attack. After all... http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2010/7/9/
I hope you are not implying that bloggers stop blogging because of dumb comments. I suspect many bloggers seem them as a badge of success.
Posted by: Darwin O'Connor | 02/27/2011 at 06:25 PM
I've found that blogs, and forums, have to be like bars. They need a good bouncer to make the place enjoyable to hang out.
A case in point is Little Green Footballs. The guy who owns it allows differences of opinion but smacks down the ad hominems, astroturfing and vitriol almost the instant it shows up.
Which contrasts to another forum where some posters can treat people who disagree with them with the same contempt Nazis show for Jews. Allegedly the forum is moderated but the mods let these people pass because said posters are 'legacies.' They are quick on the draw when newer posters react to the legacies though.
I find that the internet is like society. Most people are good hearted and honest. But there is the 'turd in the punch bowl effect.' There are a few who cannot restrain themselves from being jerks and trolls. So someone is needed to enforce a certain level of decorum and ethics.
Posted by: Rob Graham | 02/28/2011 at 11:27 AM
Darwin: I agree on the anonymity, it removes biases among other things, in considering the comment. Actually, I have encountered ex-bloggers who gave it up because of vitriolic comments. Most writers are more thin-skinned than the general population, and easily hurt, despite what they might dish out themselves. But that's not the main reason for quitting, which is actually sheer exhaustion. I have the same informal quota of stories I'm expected to produce for the Star as before I took this on, for no additional pay and with the same staff I have in my dead-tree work. (Zero, apart from Gus.) Yet my standards, fall short of them as I always do, are the Frank Riches and Gail Collins' of the world. (And Gideon Rachman and Jacob Weisberg and Andrew Coyne and Andrew Sullivan and Barbara Ehrenreich...) Turns out, I learned only when despairing that I can't match these folks, that I was told of their research staffs and personal secretaries, which I assume will follow Rich from the NYT to New York magazine. Bloggers often are overworked and lonely. That's yet another reason why the comments are so important. Though I've yet to meet a blogger who regards scatalogical feedback as a badge of honour. When I get that in my e-mail response to Star stories, I hit the delete button as soon as possible.
Posted by: dolive | 03/04/2011 at 07:23 PM
I couldn't agree more, Rob, that a blog should be a friendly place, or a conversation among friends. That's one of the reasons I enjoy the quirkiness of blogs. If there aren't animals amid the necessarily dry economic and political analysis, if there isn't the series of photos of backyards taken from inside people's homes that Andrew Sullivan has posted so many of and to such acclaim that they've been compiled in a coffee-table book, if I don't feel the personality of the community that meets there, I generally don't come back. I think I've mentioned this before, that we do have a system, apparently, for screening out certain words (the more common profanities, for instance), but the wholesale attacks on someone is for the blogger to excise, as you note of Little Green Footballs. I wish I had his alacrity at attending to that. I confess I derive so much fun from generating new blogs that I'm not removing quickly enough the junk. You're right that "someone is need to enforce," but all the Star's blogs, and I suspect it's the same at other papers, are one-person shows - there is no someone to do a job you properly describe as required, for the sake of the whole community. That said, commenters here are way, way more respectful of each other than you'll find almost anywhere, and especially in contrast to the big-circulation publications like the Daily Telegraph, the Miami Herald or the Star. The tone seems better at the NYT and WSJ, and maybe they do have a staff dedicated to that task - the "bouncers," as you aptly put it!
Posted by: dolive | 03/04/2011 at 07:31 PM
"I have the same informal quota of stories I'm expected to produce for the Star as before I took this on"
Unless you are crazy enough to try to make a living on it, I don't know why people feel pressured to post so many stories. Perhaps in the days before feed readers when people had to visit each blog they read to check for updates instead of being informed automatically that was more of a problem.
One of the advantages of blogs over columns is that there is no fixed schedules. If there is nothing to say you don't have to post, rather some coming up with a questionable column and if there is lots to say you have say all you need to.
Posted by: Darwin O'Connor | 03/05/2011 at 09:44 AM
Thanks for the shout-out for "civilogue." Would that it were easier to find such in the Intertubes...1:-{)>
Posted by: Jeffrey Weiss | 03/07/2011 at 02:05 PM