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March 14, 2006

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Meela Ali

The mind is a terrible thing to waste.
The trading of insults by both sides sends a deplorable message of waste and neglect. Emphasis is placed by the government on quality in the delivery of education building, modern education system, relevant and responsive to the changing demands of our environment driven by social and economic needs. There seems to be too much procrastination in keeping promises and commitments. As a concerned and caring parent, I share the burden of the young minds entrusted in the care of academic nourishment provided by the numbered effective administrators, motivated teachers and other caring parents. The purpose and business of school is to produce work that engage students and encourage them to persist when experiencing difficulties. Challenging students should have that sense of accomplishment and satisfaction.
In our current situation, it is with wonder that an increased number of the youths has become apathetic and prefers social hibenation to collaboration and involvement.

Sitham

It's been said, and being said that there would be a big demand for skill
workers very soon in Canada. I think there are many youngsters ready to join as
apprentices and become skill workers, but it looks very difficult to find an
employer who likes to hire fresh people.
It would be a great help if the youths are advised, how to find an employer who
hires new people or the government should arrange to provide some basics (
theory and practical) on various trades, and then the employers would be happy
to hire them.

Len Olszewski

Dear Minister Bentley,

I have read your answers to the questions posted to you and I must say I am quite dissappointed in your evasion of many of the questions and your lack of details regarding what your plans are. All you are really saying is "...our government is committed to higher educations... our govenrment will give $87.3 million for colleges this year." But where is the action? How long do we have to wait for real solutions to real problems. It truly sounds to me as if you don't really have a plan, but just a budget. As a Liberal all my life, I must say I am not impressed with the McGuinty governement. Lots of talk, but no improvements. Wiotness the Health Care Premium. I doubt people will forget this on election day.

Greg

In case mgmt/college teachers union reads this:

I feel like a parent scolding his kids but here goes. I feel like I'm being used as a pawn, a bargaining chip and that really angers me. Look, I don't care who started the whole college/mgmt fiasco or who's to blame. I just want it to stop and for once, I really want to go to school.

J. Galloway

As a college faculty member I am disappointed in the Minister's responses. I asked a specific question regarding the provincial grant funding imbalance between full-time college students and full-time university students (colleges receive only about 75% of the university per student funding). The response was essentially “we are putting more money into the system”. While more funding is needed and welcomed, he did not explain why it is acceptable in this day and age for college students to continue to be treated as second-class citizens in the eyes of the government.

Colleges are institutions of applied learning. For this approach to be successful they require faculty with a strong background in “the real world” prior to teaching (I had 20 years in the trenches before coming to teach…what percentage of university faculty or high-school teachers can say that?). For college students to be successful, especially in the shop or laboratory environment, there needs to be significant close interaction between the faculty, and good access to modern equipment. For example having 11 students standing around while one student and a teacher program an industrial robot is not applied learning. These critical aspects of applied learning (small classes, modern equipment, and experienced faculty) generally do not come cheaply; and colleges don’t have the luxury of additional multi-million dollar research funding grants from all levels of governments to subsidize their salaries and infrastructure.

In my courses I often include elements of problem solving with regards to industrial quality issues. A key technique in solving these problems is to find the ‘root-cause’. I believe that root cause here is the massive imbalance in the value that the government puts towards a theoretical education at a university verses the applied learning in the college system, proven out by the grant funding formula discussed above and conveniently side-stepped by the minister.

Alice

Premier McGuinty has talked a lot about the “Reaching Higher” plan that is supposed to invest $6.2 billion more into the province's postsecondary system over the next five years. I’m wondering if Minister Bentley’s government will accelerate an allocation of funds from the plan. And will he guarantee the money will be made available in the March budget?

Vanessa

Last November, the McGuinty government announced it would invest $211 million as part of the Quality Improvement Fund. The promised funds were to a) hire more support staff and faculty, b) purchase additional educational resources to provide training with up-to-date technology and c) improve student support services. I wonder if all the colleges in the province have received this money yet, especially in light of the ongoing faculty strike that is connected to under-funding in the college system. I also wonder if the government is giving its colleges a free reign in terms of how the money is allocated at each institution. Or does it require them to specifically earmark a significant portion of this money for hiring more faculty to alleviate overcrowding in classrooms?

Michele Leibold

I would like to have had Minister Bentley comment on the issue of ratios in regard to apprenticeship. Employment opportunities do exist, but only if apprentice to journeyperson ratios change to allow small rural companies to provide training to our local youth.

Stephanie

Today the colleges promised that students will be able to finish their semester. I don’t know how they can make such a guarantee. Each college must develop its own plan about how to deal with the mess of the strike and I can’t see how there can be any consistency across programs and across the province. Also, if the faculty are not inextricably linked to and meaningfully involved in the development of these plans, this guarantee has no academic credibility. Given that the provincial government oversees the college system, what will Bentley do RIGHT NOW to guarantee that students don’t lose their school year and that “earning the year” will have real academic and industry validity?

Nathan

I’m a student at George Brown College and there seems to be a lot of chaos here now. Students have been getting different information; it seems the college’s messaging to both students and staff has been vague and confusing at best and deliberately obfuscating at worst. Since the colleges are directly accountable to the provincial government, I’d like to know what McGuinty intends to do to ensure that the colleges start acting responsibly, with full accountability and transparency to their students.

DG Dagee

What kind of governance does the provincial government have over the community colleges?

Your government is beginning to correct the chronic underfunding over the last several years in the post-secondary area. Yet, the local colleges can spend the increased funding they receive in any manner they wish. Therefore, it seems that no matter what your intentions are (i.e., the results you are wish to acheive with the funding) the local colleges spend the funds on whatever they want.
The McGuinty Quality Improvement Fund is a perfect example. Just under $90 million in additional funding was given to the colleges and universities to "improve the quality of education".
Within the context of the Rae Report, this means increasing the number of full time faculty. And institutions like Ryerson and the University of Toronto seem to be doing just that. Yet the colleges are not.
For example, the UofT received $16.5 million dollars and are hiring 113 full time faculty and 240 support staff. By contrast George Brown College received $3.8 million and is hiring 3 full time faculty and 27 support faculty. This faculty increment is entirely out of proportion when compared to the UofT example.
So, that is why I ask the question. What mechanism is there in place to ensure that the colleges implement your aims, and fulfill their fiduciary duty to you (and the taxpayers)?

Jemal

College students are demanding tuition refunds for classes missed and reimbursements for expenses incurred because of the strike. I’d like to know how the Minister proposes to deal with these demands. After all, we’re not getting what we paid for, and fair is fair.

Muriel

Sir, I am a college teacher and I am on strike. I have been teaching in an Ontario College for 20 years. I have always felt that my job was an important one - one that made a difference to the young Ontarians who chose this course of study. In recent years, colleges have become more and more 'business-oriented,' paying only lip service to the needs and success of our students. To a college administrator, a student lost to what they call 'attrition' is a loss of funding, purely and simply. The pursuit of additional funding is a full time job for college administrators.
College teachers alone do all the necessary work to educate students. We design course objectives, prepare lectures, teach in the classroom, maintain electronic sites for students' information needs, meet with students one on one for counseling and extra help with subjects, design and grade tests, exams and assignments, and more. We are dedicated to providing students with the tools they need to develop intellectually and have successful careers.
As we struggle with this responsibility, we are constantly harried and hampered by college administrations, who judge our contribution as costly and inefficient. College administrators want to lower standards for success and cram more and more students into the classroom - all in the interests of cutting costs and collecting more tuition and government grants.
College management has lost sight of the role of community colleges in Ontario. College 'mission statements' and strategic plans are marvels of 'doublespeak' and euphemisms. When they say "Student Success" they mean more graduates, greater enrolment, and more revenues for the colleges. Their lack of concern for a student struggling to succeed because his professor is swamped with work and because so many other students need his time and attention is perplexing. How can students be successful, if in the course of their studies, it is abundantly clear that many remain uneducated and or inarticulate?
Over the past years college administrations have been even further obsessed with increasing enrolment. The provincial government support through programs such as Superbuild, an initiative of Mike Harris' Conservatives that gave $742 million to post-secondary capital projects to help expand the capacity of Ontario colleges and universities. College administrators went on an unprecedented spending spree. They increased their own salaries by up to 20% during this period. Now they want more, and they want to diminish further academic quality by demanding even more from overworked teachers and librarians.
Indeed, they are attempting to remove any protection we have over reasonable workload limits by trashing our Collective Agreement, and using inexpensive part-time faculty to do full time work. (Part-timers, who do not have job security, are manipulated and taken advantage of because there is no measure of the work that they do - they are simply paid an amount per hour of classroom teaching. Many part-timers teach at more than one college. To assume that they can or will, in such circumstances, make the kind of commitment and contribution needed from college faculty to achieve a quality education for our students is simply naïve.)
Salary demands, while on the table, are not the issue in the strike. The real issue is exactly what we hoped for when Premier McGuinty promised in May of 2005 when he said:
"By quality, we mean more faculty at colleges and universities, to accommodate higher enrolments and help students succeed, more faculty time for students, more students completing their undergraduate programs and going on to grad school and easier movement between colleges and universities."
We agree wholeheartedly with Premier McGuinty. Our position in this strike is fully aligned with his thinking - we want to restore quality to college classrooms.
I urge you to ask the Premier to intervene and bring an end to this unnecessary loss to students.

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