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November 28, 2005

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Carla

Considering that it sure seems like the iffy calls usually go against the Leafs instead of for them, in response to all the kvetching the Habs were doing over the penalty at the end of Saturday night's game, I must quote the inestimable Owen Nolan:

'Boo hoo.'

Chris

I don't disagree that Rivet tripped Antropov...I just don't know what game Pollack and the other ref was watching. Markov scored a goal, yet its called back. But he doesn't get the penalty call either. Brutal. Under the same circumstances, I'd probably be screaming at the refs too. Its now Tuesday and I am still disgusted by that game. Begin's penalty, McCabe's penalty, the absolutely brutal call on Markov's goal and then putting away the whistle for the 3rd only to call that penalty on Rivet. If Markov gets suspended, so should Pollack. The guy has no business being an NHL referee.

And if you really think the Leafs get the short end of the refereeing stick, you don't watch a lot of non-Leafs games. They still get away with more clutch-and-grab and interference than most teams (Philly excepted). Jacques Lemaire noted this too, that 3 or 4 of the eastern teams seem to get away with way more interference than anybody else. I couldn't agree more.

Jlo

I'd take the Sens in the first round. Got to go through them anyway. Might as well finish of the franchise for good. After they get dusted by the 8th place Leafs this spring, their morale will be so low, even Eugene Melnyk's other investment won't be able to bring them up.

Yes, I am playoff trash talking in November.

Carla

'And if you really think the Leafs get the short end of the refereeing stick, you don't watch a lot of non-Leafs games. They still get away with more clutch-and-grab and interference than most teams (Philly excepted). Jacques Lemaire noted this too, that 3 or 4 of the eastern teams seem to get away with way more interference than anybody else. I couldn't agree more.'


As a matter of fact, I do watch a lot of non-Leafs games. I have the "NHL Centre Ice" package, and the first thing I do when I get home from work at night is turn on the tv and tune to whatever hockey matchup looks like it might be the best.

And I do think that the Leafs are a team that attract extraordinary attention from the referees. I also think that other teams get away with a lot more than usual when they play against the Leafs. I seriously think that (some) referees are not fond of the Leafs and their (admittedly, yappy) coach. Of course, that is just my perception, based on the games I watch. Obviously, you have a different perception.

I certainly don't dispute that the officiating in that game was atrocious. It's been atrocious in a lot of games I've watched this season. The New! N!H!L!'s officiating is consistent only in its inconsistency, IMO. I wouldn't defend Markov's actions, though. Ever.

Chris

I not only agree that the refereeing is inconsistent in the new NHL, but I would go a step further and say that it is absolutely bush league this year. I am having a harder and harder time watching hockey now because so many of the calls are just so unbelievably bad. And this despite the fact that I am actually in favour of zero tolerance!

Also, I don't think referees are particularly for or against a given team so much as they are perhaps more apt to reward one style over another...for example, I always thought Terry Gregson and Don Koharski called the game in a way that was more favourable to bigger, slow-skating teams (Bruins, Flyers, 90's Leafs), while guys like Denis Morel or Andy van Hellemond were often kind to skating teams (Montreal, Edmonton, Quebec). I can't justify it, it was just the sense I picked up over the years.

Wouldn't it be interesting to see a win-loss record of teams with each of the referees?

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