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December 09, 2005

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Ken

I think you're right about the US's odds being ridiculous, but the ranking system certainly makes them look better than they are. The problem is that the World Cup apart, most teams never face inter-continental competition. So the US and Mexico, being the big fish in the small pond of CONCACAF, have their ratings artificially inflated as a result of their easier competition. I know the algorithm takes into account strength of opponent, but it also has a high premium on winning, which is much easier for the US playing Guatemala than it is for theCzech Republic playing Holland in qualifying.

cy

Yeah, I merely point to those odds as something I'd jump all over. They were even this high before the draw, which brought with it an even steeper task for the second-place finisher in the U.S. group: a second-round match against Brazil, who will almost certainly cruise home on top of their group.
And yes, Europe is always going to be tougher.
But there's something I didn't mention here that is worth looking at, at least I think it is, and it concerns the media's attention span (hint: it's short).
Four years ago in Korea/Japan and even at Euro 2004 when Greece shocked everyone, there was much written about how the football/soccer world was changing, how former minnows like the U.S. and Asian countries were no longer pushovers.
Now, you can argue that '02 was an anomaly, being in Asia, and thus off Europe's hallowed turf. But I have yet to see anyone return to the premise of a more level global playing field, and how it might apply here.
I wouldn't be so quick to rap this U.S. team, for example, for the poor European record of their predecessors, but I've seen that oh-for-7 record mentioned a number of times as if it's the operative indicator. One thing though: This US is a little better than Mexico, who were ranked ahead of them in the draw under FIFA's rules -- they've won two of four meetings since '02, with one draw -- and I think they're a lot better than previous editions (their record vs Europe since '02: two wins, three losses, three draws).
I'm going to come back to this again, I'm sure.

alex

At first glance, the US' odds do seem a bit strange, but then you take into account that all their hopes are pinned on finishing first in their group, as the 2nd place team has a great chance of facing Brazil in the next round. Finishing first in this group would be a huge accomplishment; it's just as tough as Argentina's group.

Ken

Good points, Chris, although I think that there were a couple of factors in the last World Cup that helped non-European teams - firstly, the location. More importantly, though, most European players had just finished a pretty arduous season and many teams lost key players just before the tournament. This time, all play has to end May 15 to give four clear weeks free before the World Cup. That will make a difference.

That said, the US were great at the last World Cup and probably deserved to beat Germany, except they were a striker short of a good team. I'd like to see some of the developing teams integrated into the stronger confederations in some way, shape or form though. Because meetings in friendlies aren't a great judge of success, and I can't help but feel that qualifying against El Salvador and chums isn't the best way of pushing teams on.

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