Game 43: In which I pretend that never happened and gaze into a crystal ball
It was just after midnight when I first attempted to write this dispatch.
The Leafs were in Glendale, Arizona. Maybe it was the arid climate. Maybe it was the subtropical sun. Maybe it was the distant mountains.
Whatever the reason, before the Leafs arrived at Jobing.com Arena – what the hell kind of name is that for a hockey rink? – their circadian clocks were rewired by unseen forces and, without warning, they slipped into a deep sleep while the game was still underway.
"Game 43," I started to type. "In which I pretend that—"
Suddenly, my eyes called a time-out.
Me: "What? You need me to blink? Clean our glasses? Visine?"
Eyes: "We're not doing this now."
Me: "Excuse me? We have to do this now."
Eyes: "Piss off. It's been a long week. We're done."
I tried to continue without them. I swear to God, I tried. But without my eyes, my fingers typed words such as xojaljeg and sleibalk and tlwolkjslbpqiwobn. Everything got real blurry.
Now, look. I have never made excuses for this team. But if we as fans felt utterly bagged after just watching this Western road trip, imagine how the team felt after playing three games in four nights in three cities in two time zones.
Their legs were like our eyes: They were done.
So, yes, the Leafs ran out of gas at the end of a very successful road trip. Nine goals against Atlanta? Back-to-back wins in Los Angeles and San Jose? Even last night, before the third period started, it was only 1-0. They were asleep but thanks to James Reimer, they had a chance to wake up in time.
When you're running on empty, you tend to miss the net, botch your chances and conserve rather than accelerate. But here's the more important development, even if the Leafs choose not to see it on this travel day: As the sun was setting in Arizona, our magnificent Leaf bastards ran out of gas at critical fork in the road.
Do they veer left, toward a city called Rebuild? Or do they merge right and travel down a bumpy highway called The Possible But Unlikely Mad Dash For The Final Playoff Spot?
If they go left, I'm guessing, J.S. Giguere starts Saturday when the Leafs return home to play Calgary. In fact, we'll see a lot more of Jiggy between now and the trade deadline next month as the bus stops to jettison certain players while welcoming new guys aboard. We may have also seen the last of Reimer for now, impossible as that seems.
If the Leafs go right, they carry three goalies for an indefinite period. Not an ideal situation. Reimer will play more, lots more. And Jonas Gustavsson will remain in the vehicle, albeit mostly in the back seat where he'll stare out the window with sad eyes while listening to depressing alternative music on his iPod.
Are we playing for the future? Or are we playing for now? Do we somehow ignore the wins and losses and showcase assets that may appeal to other teams and, in turn, bring us key missing ingredients for a new beginning in the fall? Or do we believe this brilliant start in 2011 – let's face it, a 5-2 stretch seemed unfathomable before Christmas – can realistically be sustained over the next three months?
If the Leafs feel they can play above .600 with this team configured such as it is, they should obviously step on the gas and go right. Patience be damned. Let's see what happens. Let's see what these guys can do.
But if there's any doubt – even if this doubt is never conveyed to us – the Leafs should quietly go left. By all means, yes, compete every night. Tell us you're trying your best. Tell us the playoffs are still the goal. But deep down, understand this season has slipped away and the present is the future.
Here's the most important thing: It's time to make a decision.
Left or right, a song for the road, courtesy of the good people at hockeygods.com
Maybe they can play like they're going left, and without the pressure, perform well enough to end up going right? A girl can dream, right? (Maybe I should steer clear of the Buckley's and go straight to the whiskey.)
VM Replies: The comparative benefit of the whisky is it tastes great *and* it works.
Posted by: Katherine | 01/14/2011 at 01:03 PM
Hang a reggie, Leafs!
No matter what, they need to continue to believe they have a shot at the playoffs and maintain what they have been doing thus far in 2011, as unrealistic as it maybe. We can't afford to go left because we don't have a draft pick, so right it is! As close as we can possibly get to the top the better, can’t afford to give Boston another high pick.
Whichever way they choose, it seems that the one thing the Leafs don’t do, is give up. Some games they appear tired and winded but dammit, some games they just don’t give up and I don’t think they will give up on this season till the very last game.
VM Replies: Okay, you've convinced me. Let's go right! I call shotgun!
Posted by: Alecia | 01/14/2011 at 01:11 PM
What does IMEMEN mean? :P
VM Replies: I believe it roughly translates into, "There's now a coffee stain on my trousers."
Posted by: Tom | 01/14/2011 at 01:13 PM
Oh good, someone is bringing Whisky. Good thinking.
VM Replies: My hip-flask full of vodka has been waiting in the freezer since the lockout.
Posted by: Alecia | 01/14/2011 at 01:16 PM
I missed the game, listened to most of it on the radio on my way home from work. Did anyone really think before this road trip that they would come out of it with a 3-1 win to loss ratio??
I for one believe this team may have turned a corner, I guess tomorrow night's game will be good indication where this team will go....They were riding a high, and now they face a little adveristy, so let's see how they play.
Reimer, is still a propect in his NHL developement , his numbers even after lat night's game look good. Do we have a blue chipper or another Pogge....Let's see with time.
I wasn't going to post today, but after some of the comments posted on the article written about the game...The Leafs bashers comming out after a loss to profess that this team has no tradeable assests and the ever over used line " I guess the parade is over", I would have to say this.....
How many teams would like to have a Kessel in their lineup?? How many teams would take The Monster, Rynnas or Scrivens to their farm system?? Or how about Grabo, McArthur, Kulemin, Kaberle, Schenn and so. So to believe or say the Leafs have nothing....People need to get their mind out of the Talk radio gutter and start reading and forming informative opinions.
VM Replies: The bashers are predictably lame. Oh, and make sure you don't leave your computer unattended today!
Posted by: Nik Culoman | 01/14/2011 at 01:28 PM
I will accept the blame for this loss. I watched it in full and I am back in BC. As Vinay rightly pointed out, they went undefeated in the road trip during my road trip back East. I think the one disheartening this is the Leafs don't seem to have enough depth to win without key pieces i.e. Versteeg goes out and suddenly the 3rd line (despite the late goal) doesn't look nearly as dangerous, the power play went 0-4 or 0-5 and the PK goes to hell in a handbasket.
I don't want to share blame with the refs but it seemed like this whole trip the Leafs have got the short-end. Of course you can say they got away with one as Brown put Jovo into the next time zone and it does fit the blind-side, heat to the head criteria but he got drilled in the head prior to that hit on the same shift.
Finally, as I watched Reimer let in a few goals, it made me think that he will be sent down and in a way it's unfair but I understand if they do send him down it's so they can decide what to do at the trade deadline. As Nik pointed out, we honestly don't know if Reimer is the real deal and there is no harm in letting him further develop with the Marlies (are they in a playoff spot? that would be great to let him play in playoff pressure). He also doesn't seem like the type of player who will sulk his way back to the Ricoh.
VM Replies: It is your fault.
Posted by: TG77 | 01/14/2011 at 01:48 PM
So are we going for the playoffs, or trading assets? Even though I would appreciate Reimer being in the lineup, in order to receive the thanks of Leaf nation in person. He has to be sent back to the Marlies.
He played great as a fill in for Jiggy and the Goose. That is by the way, what a callup is supposed to do. Fill the hole and play your best. He did, he was awesome.
If he stays as some would like. What do we do with the Goose? Having 3 goalies on the roster is very awkward. Not to mention how does Reimer handle the obvious hurt feelings/ animosity, from the other 2 goalies? Is that really the best way to handle his growth as a hockey player?
Should Burke alienate a man who won the Conn Smythe trophy, allowing Burkie to wear a Stanley Cup ring? That would make him look very un-loyal to Jiggy. Burke has stood by Wilson all this time, I can't see him not doing it for Giguere.
If Jiggy is healthy, he gives us an excellent opportunity to improve in the standings. Remember when we got him for that Toskala fellow. Jiggy was awesome, the shutouts, remember?
Tenth place is somewhere that accomplishes a lot. We get out of the Kessel trade talk. Could even be seen as a win for Toronto. We compete with Montreal and Carolina, for eighth and ninth in the conference. Buffalo, Ottawa and Florida don't look that good right now. (sorry Sensi-Bill)
A devastating injury to Montreal or Carolina and who knows. Who is Montreals' back up goalie?, Carlona's?. Or remove Staal from Carolina. They are very average if you do that.
What if Reimer stays and the Leafs play a few games in front of him like that Edmonton game? They are capable of that, we already have plenty of proof they can be that bad. Does it hurt Reimers' long term development?
The only way to trade Jiggy at the deadline is if he is playing and playing well. Backing up Reimer, hurts his trade value. Any asset we get for him is better than none at all.
Are we ready to give up on the Goose? He is already a little emotional, going back to backing up Jiggy should be good for his demeanor.
Leaf fans, "I'm a little faklempt", "Talk amongst yourselves"
VM Replies: Wow. Quite the comment there, Dr. Waffles. I'm picturing you standing and reading these words aloud as you get progressively louder.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/14/2011 at 02:06 PM
I don't think anyone would argue that this west coast swing was a success, as most were fretting last week how tough this week's schedule would be. Much as I hate to say it, but it's a good thing that Reimer has a loss: if only to keep him on an even keel. The kid thus far has been playing well and propped up in the media, now let's see how well he handles the potential onslaught of negativity from the outside. My guess is he'll shrug it off, learn from it, and move onto the next game. Will Wilson give him the start, though?
Cheers!
VM Replies: Your last question = fork in the road.
Posted by: We BeLeaf | 01/14/2011 at 02:13 PM
No Vinay, all calm, all the time. Picture quiet church voice instead. The guy in the mirror doesn't listen at all anymore. I am just asking the questions, quietly and politely.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/14/2011 at 02:17 PM
No, yesterday was a blimp in my schedule....I had meetings Vinay, I don't check my computer that often....I am more times than not away from my computer. But I hope the disbelievers and the leafs bashers can all put last night's game into context....
I am happy with where this team is going in its developement...Saturday will be a great indication if I am right..
Posted by: Nik Culoman | 01/14/2011 at 02:20 PM
I'm not going to beat a dead horse on the topic of the loss. The Leafs had a great road trip and deserve every bit of respect they earned during those games. They were tired, and even the best teams get tired and don't play like themselves at the end of a road trip like this.
I love what Reimer has given this team.. Options. Personally, (and don't jump on me for this) but I'd like to see Reimer get sent down for the time being, and give Jiggy a few starts to show he's healthy. If Burke can move Jiggy during this time, then we bring Optimus Reim back up and let him and Goose battle it our for the rest of the season for next year's starter job.
If Burke can't move Jiggy, Reimer can still be brought back up and they can run with 3 goalies giving the young guys the majority (if not all) the starts. Jiggy is off the books next year anyways.
It will be interesting to see what happens, but I really hope they consider the big picture on this one. Reimer has given us more options, but he's still only 5 games deep and to Nik's point (I'm agreeing with Nik for once), we still aren't sure if we have a Rask or a Pogge at this point.
Make a left at the fork, but play like you made a right.
VM Replies: Brilliant.
Posted by: Simmer | 01/14/2011 at 02:27 PM
Besides the fact my lemon squares burnt to a crisp reading the gospel according to Waffles,what the heck is he (she?) talking about and who the hell is Carlona?When did we as fans ever have anything but disdain for managers or coaches who make decisions based on loyalty to players?Be loyal to yourself,the team and the fans.I say play the kid,turn right and floor it!
VM Replies: How much room do you have in that van of yours?
Posted by: Account Deleted | 01/14/2011 at 02:52 PM
Not to change the subject, but I'm hearing this in other places today - how is Brown's hit on Jovanovski suspendable? Purely because of it's unfortunate placement, which to me, did not look intentional? Was Jovanovski concussed or did he simply leave the ice to pout because his howling theatrics got him nowhere with the officials?
Back on topic: it was a sloppy, uninspiring game in many ways and I hated seeing the smile wiped off Reimer's face afterwards. But I don't think all hope is lost. In years past, I'd have shut the game off after two periods because it would be all too apparent they'd waved the white flag and given up. What I took away from this game was that they had an off night, but they were trying to pull it together, even in the dying seconds of the third. It's been frustrating and draining to even watch these last few games, what with the abuse being dished out all over the ice and horrific officiating. Playing in them was probably no picnic either. Here's to hoping they get their mojo back against the Flames.
VM Replies: Your screen name just made me laugh, though I'm not sure why. That aside, I felt the same way watching last night.
Posted by: Boo Who? | 01/14/2011 at 02:55 PM
Not sure why you ask,VM,but even with all my crap the van will transport myself,two accomplices (I mean friends) and easily another "passenger" or two.
Posted by: Account Deleted | 01/14/2011 at 03:26 PM
@ Simmer...I know we don't always agree but thanks for agreeing....Maybe things have changed hahahahaha
I think Brunnstrom could be an interesting pick up, we gave up a guy the team had clearly given up on...Now Brunnstrom comes in, I wonder if he could ctach fire having a guy like Kadri playing on his line???
I am not sure which one of you post about that Nicholls kid in the WHL but he seems to be garnering some attention out there...He is a Leaf prospect as well.
Posted by: Nik Culoman | 01/14/2011 at 03:41 PM
Ha ha, thanks, it encapsulates my eternal dilemma.
I have only ever had one thought on this whole speculative shell game with the goalies - the initial decision to bench Jonas in favour of a rookie told me all was not right in his world. Burke and Wilson have made comments during interviews that seemed to indicate that they were looking to weed out players with the wrong mentality and that no one was 'safe'. Who would you rather have on your team? A fading but level-headed vet, a positive and promising rookie, or a guy with a hair-trigger temper that aggravates tough situations? I'm by no means a hockey coach, but I know who I'd go with.
Posted by: Boo Who? | 01/14/2011 at 03:57 PM
It's simple: Leafs win the next two and the playoff race is still on. Leafs lose to Calgary and the season's over. Then you send Reimer down and play Giggy until you can trade him.
If the Leafs win the next two then Reimer gets the next start. It's simple. You carry three goalies for two more games. Then we will know what this team is made of. By the way, where is Versteeg?
VM Replies: "Upper body injury."
Posted by: moe green | 01/14/2011 at 04:23 PM
I'm thinking that if we can move a spare defenceman as well as a goalie (Jiggy, as he is the present, not the future), there's no reason we can't do what Yogi Berra so famously quipped: "If there's a fork in the road, take it."
VM Replies: But how do you move Jiggy unless he plays?
Posted by: Matt | 01/14/2011 at 04:23 PM
I know it's from a competing paper, but damn this is good! :)
http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2011/01/14/16891171.html#/news/torontoandgta/2011/01/14/pf-16890726.html
I'm a die-hard Leaf fan, but I can laugh at my own obsession, no? :P
VM Replies: That video is at the end of today's post! You don't need to visit The Sun to see it!
Posted by: E.M. | 01/14/2011 at 04:31 PM
OOPS. Sorry for the repost Vinay. YouTube's blocked here at work, so the video in your post doesn't show. The Sun's one is directly hosted, hence I was able to see it there.
VM Replies: I was just kidding. Forgot that YouTube is occasionally blocked in the workplace. So never mind what I said previously: Everybody go visit The Sun!
Posted by: E.M. | 01/14/2011 at 04:42 PM
Funny thing, I seem to remember cheering just as loudly for Giggy and Goose as for Reimer at various times this year. I think Giggy and Goose will be fine and Reimer can go back down to the Marlies - just not yet. What I don't want to do is kill the Kid's confidence like we've done with Goose.
The past road trip was part Reimer but it was mostly Leafs. They played inspired, cohesive hockey. They played like a team. They skated. They checked. They were awesome. They played the same way that they did to start the season. Can someone tell me why? It's not just Reimer - I don't buy that. Are we saying Giggy was wholly responsible for the first four games?
Does anyone have any suggestions as to why the Leafs played so well on this road trip other than because of Reimer? If that's all then why the Phoenix problem? I have watched this team play some of the best hockey I have ever seen and some of the worst. Why? What changed?
I expect a strong game and a victory against the woeful Flames tomorrow night. If I don't get it, I'll really be confused. That and a lot disappointed.
Posted by: moe | 01/14/2011 at 04:52 PM
Oh by all means I feel Jiggy should play, both for the Leafs sake (he's obviously good) and to increase his trade value. And I like the guy. It's too bad that Goose doesn't have a 2-way contract. Not that I feel he should be demoted, but it would be nice to have more options in order to optimize the NHL playing time of all 3 guys (if the rules even allow for constant sending-up/down of players). I certainly do not envy anyone involed in the decision making process for this (welcomed) pickle we're in.
Plus there are other unknowns. How will this whisky/Buckley's binge affect Vinay's shotgun riding (and firing) abilities?
Posted by: Matt | 01/14/2011 at 05:25 PM
A general managers' reputation is very important to the players. A player signing a contract to play for a specific team and GM, wants to know that he will be treated with respect, and given every chance to succeed.
Take Giguere at his word, he was unable due to injury, to perform up to everyone's expectations. He says he is healthy. He is the number one goalie, and deserves another opportunity to prove he can play. If he doesn't play well, so be it. He will then have received a fair opportunity to reclaim his position. I will suggest that 3 or 4 starts in the next 5 games is a good indicator.
The idea that Burke can just send him to the minors, is a little untrue. The money is not a problem. The Leafs are rich. However, each and every team in the League is allowed to have a maximum of 50 players under contract at any time. Total, including all of the minors. The Leafs have 50 contracts now. Burke would like a little more room to make deals.
This is important because Burkie might want to take on a contact for a draft pick. Being at the limit makes it harder to do this. The best position if Reimer is the goalie of the future, is to get something back for Jiggy, in a trade. Even better if its a pick, one less contract. Giguere has little to no value if he isn't playing.
If Burke sends Jiggy to the minors and say Goose gets hurt. Burke has to recall Jiggy, another team can claim him, and Burkie loses the asset as well as having to pay half the salary. Not a good situation.
Every GM needs the players they sign to trust that their contracts will be honored. How do you think Redden feels in the minors? Is he happy? If Toronto becomes somewhere that players play for big money in the minors, it is going to hurt Burke's ability to entice free agents to sign here as well as re-sign our free agents. None of them want to be embarrassed.
The Marlies are playing well under Eakins, Reimer can go back and play very well there, with the increased confidence due to playing great in the NHL. I don't see why this is such a terrible thing.
Hey TimB, Carlona, is somewhere close to Carolina. Not quite but close.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/14/2011 at 06:02 PM
I'll go as far as to say I believe if we had our first round picks half or more of you would be crying for us to tank right now.Let's put players on the ice to increase their trade value?Can't we just play the game old school.It's more like a chess game now than hockey.Speaking of things wrong with the game did anyone notice the Coyotes hit the ice like a sniper shot them every time they caught a high stick? Komisarek takes a high stick and does not even react.That's old school.Anyway before I sound any more like Grapes I'll say if the Leafs put the kid in,turn right and kick it on down into overdrive,I'm with them through thick and thin.Mama let the boys play some rock 'n roll.
Posted by: Account Deleted | 01/14/2011 at 06:28 PM
Reimer was sent down to the Marlies today..... inevitable but I was really hoping to see him get a home start after the success of this road trip.
However, as some posters have suggested, I wouldn't be surprised to see all order reinstated (Jiggy as our #1, Monster back up and Reimer in the Marlies) in order to showcase Jiggy as a trade prospect as the deadline is coming up. We know what we got in Monster and Reimer and I think it's safe to think that not playing them right now and instead highlighting Jiggy is an investment in our future. This team really does not need him but he would make a great addition to a playoff contending team in need of better goaltending in return for a power forward (or whatever we can get for him).
I think putting Jiggy in net tomorrow is really going to show you which fans are patient, and which are not. But dammit, I wanted to see Reimer play one more game before going down.
Posted by: Alecia | 01/14/2011 at 06:54 PM
Haven't had a chance to read today's Blog item yet, or the responses.
Just popping in to ask a quick question: "Would you like the Sens to soften up the Flames tonight (Friday) or get them overconfident before they play the Leafs tomorrow night (Saturday)?
I'll pop back later.
Gotta go eat my mac 'n' cheese. (The amateur chef in me causes me to note that it is homemade, NOT KD) (g)
Yeah, comfort food as we dare watch our Sens in "action."
Cheers
Posted by: Sens-ible Bill | 01/14/2011 at 07:39 PM
So they send Reimer down. Fine. I just hope he knew he was going back down before the Phoenix game. If not, it was a bit of a crap move.
Giggy back in net makes sense if they are planning to move him by the deadline. But I'm not so sure that is the case. Wasn't there some kind of issue with his kid and hospitals or something? And doesn't he have a no-trade clause?
So how do you guys like the move if Burke has no plans to move Giggy? Do you feel the same way? I sure don't. But if the intention is to showcase him then I am on board and my guess is that we'll see Reimer called up before the year is out.
I really hate being chastised by other Leaf fans for being impatient. That is one criticism that should never be allowed between Leaflanders. If Leaf fans are anything at all, 43 years and counting says we are PLENTY patient. I will wait if I get the truth and if the actions of management follow their stated intent.
Burke has claimed that he is looking for current assets to help the team make the playoffs this season not picks or prospects for the future. Is he lying? Is it okay with everyone if he is?
If we have given up this season then at least admit it. Stop paying lip-service to making changes designed to make the playoffs this season. It's just not fair to the fans. If it's over then say so. Tell us we are still "trying to make the playoffs" (duh) but we will not compromise the future to do so. That works for me. Just tell us the truth and let us decide if we want to pay for the Leafs anymore this year.
Posted by: moe | 01/14/2011 at 08:15 PM
Does anyone know why it's "Jiggy" and not "Giggy?"
VM Replies: They started calling him "Jiggy" in Anaheim early in his first season. It was tied to the Will Smith song, which they played whenever he came up with a huge save.
So his nickname has nothing to do with his name, which is where the confusion comes.
Posted by: moe | 01/14/2011 at 08:16 PM
So, we have seen there is a light at the end of the tunnel. Let us all enjoy the rapture of winning - after all, winning is the only thing, isn't it? I mean rapture every night! Whom are we kidding. It really doesn't matter who is in the net, I saw a picture of last night's game and Colton Freakin' Orr was checking a Coyote in front of our net! My immediate thoughts, where are the defence, Colton, is outside rather than inside the guy, he doesn't have the guy's stick tied up, they are both in the blue paint, the guy's stick is on the ice, etc, etc. Fundamental mistakes Mr. Orr, but, obviously you are trying. The Leafs are better than we give them credit - but, the right combination of players has not yet touched the ice.
One last comment, what is a Leaf? Of all the guys skating up and down the ice, who are the real Leafs? Wendell Clarke is a Leaf (for life) Who among the present players would you say are Leafs in the traditional Toronto sense? Clarke MacArthur comes to mind for me. And certainly Schenn - who else? Anybody?
Posted by: Robert | 01/14/2011 at 08:43 PM
A power forward for an injury-prone $7-million-a-year goaltender past his prime?
I guess one can find comfort in dreams.
Posted by: Sensi-Bill | 01/14/2011 at 08:47 PM
Well I guess my earlier question --- "Should the Sens wear down the Flames tonigh or get them overconfident before they meet the Leafs tomorrow night?" --- didn't get through.
Well, at 2-0 Flames halfway through the game, I guess we're more likely to make Calgary overconfident. (sigh)
Though I haven't given up yet on tonight's game.
Posted by: Sensi-Bill | 01/14/2011 at 08:53 PM
While winning, no one can tolerate even the idea of the kid being sent down.
One loss --- that apparently was the team's fault, rather than his --- and it seems the very same people are calling for him to be sent down.
I doesn't matter how valid either stance is/was. What strikes me is how familiar is this pattern of turning on a dime at the first sign of renewed adversity.
As a sort of outside observer, I don't think Leaf fans are not patient. I think they're just not steadfast in their confidence.
And how could they be?
Kind of hard to blame them when they've been let down so frequently and so consistently, for so long.
They're so conditioned to waiting for the other shoe to fall, it seems near ecstasy can turn to familiar dismay before it even hits the floor.
Just some observations/generalizations from someone who can stand back from the Pavlovian pressures of being a Leaf fan.
By NO means am I offering pity, or even sympathy. Just understanding and commiseration from an similarly addicted hockey fan.
(3-0 Flames. Perhaps we can tire out their shooters for you.) (sigh)
Posted by: Sensi-Bill | 01/14/2011 at 09:15 PM
I imagine our Moderator is getting some well-earned, much-deserved rest. So I'll stop posting for now. (grin)
Besides, the way my Sens are making the Flames look good, I would probably be better off in bed myself.
(slightly sad smile)
[sings] "Don't cry for me, Greater Toronto Area . . ."
VM Replies: I am here, William. Always here. Condolences on tonight's loss.
Posted by: Sensi-Bill | 01/14/2011 at 09:22 PM
I thought that Giggy would be traded but he has a no trade clause apparantly. Brian Burke will not ask him to waive it,period.He has said that if a player has it, he has earned it and Burke will honour it. So unless Giggy asks to be traded he ain't goin' nowhere.
Posted by: Grabbo | 01/14/2011 at 09:46 PM
Great night for the Leafs on the out of town scoreboard!
Posted by: moe | 01/14/2011 at 10:21 PM
Grabbo, I can't see him not discussing it with Burke. How much time does he have in the NHL? He knows this team is not winning the cup this year, let alone making the playoffs and I am sure he is aware of the team's goaltending situation. I can't see him not wanting to make a move to a team that might be in playoff contention. I guess we will see.
VM Replies: What's tonight's final score prediction from Psychic Alecia?
Posted by: Alecia | 01/15/2011 at 09:33 AM
Ummmmmmmmmmm 4-2
VM Replies: You need to come to Vegas with me.
Posted by: Alecia | 01/15/2011 at 10:05 AM
Let's just see what happens tonight.
Please note that I originally typed up 5-2, but then changed it to 4.-2.
Posted by: Alecia | 01/15/2011 at 10:13 AM
Just read that Jimmy Howard from Detroit is out. I wonder if they'll come calling...
@ Grabbo, you're saying that Burke won't even approach Giggy if there are offers such as Detroit. Make sense to you that he wouldn't go to a consistent playoff team with an immediately better chance to win one more cup?
Posted by: We BeLeaf | 01/15/2011 at 10:15 AM
Habs fan here, so don't y'all jump on my head, but I just want to point out my own psychic sense that the Habs are going to be trading Andrei K to you guys for a D-man.
It may be because my horoscope has sudeenly shifted, but seriously, I have this feeling, as the Habs have their 2 best D-men out for the season, and need an experienced guy at the blue line for the rest of the season. As for Brother Andrei, he's Belarussian and an old frenemy of Graboski (who had a real hate-on for the younger Kosty--girl troubles?).
Just my feeling....
Posted by: Princess Mononoke | 01/15/2011 at 11:12 AM
Here's the decision that has to be made. We either lie to the fans and tell them we are trying for the playoffs when we aren't. We do that and we are no better than George Bush or Steven Harper. They believe in the noble lie and so do their minions. Is that what we want of our hockey team: scumbag Straussian bull crap? Funny how Burke is all "honorable" and gets Gerber so we don't accidentally get a too high draft pick yet now he's all whatever, send our saviour down, let's play for the future. Fine Brian, just enough with the BS. We can take it. Too bad if the truth impacts your bottom line. IS MLSE a charity?
Tonight's game: 7-2 if Jiggy doesn't kill us with a couple of softies. If he does, 6-5!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 11:51 AM
It's quite simple really. You take the slow road and start to rebuild through the draft, next year. You win with superstars and elite level players. The Leafs have none. You can talk all you want about Burke replenishing the farm team and adding youth to this team, which is great, but we have no superstars or elite players. What Burke has done is added "good" young players, not elite level young players. Obviously, getting rid of certain players at the deadline will lead to a better Boston draft pick. To that I say: who cares? We're not getting the pick back, so who cares who else gets it? Fact is, we're not getting it. If this is about saving some face and embarrassment, then I think Burke has the wrong motivation. We need to concentrate on starting to rebuild through the draft next year and try to continue to bottom out and draft high, because in the new NHL no one is dumb enough to trade a Crosby, an Ovechkin or a Toews, let alone let them walk to free agency. You can talk all you want about being able to trade for a good to great player or sign one, like a Phil Kessel, but he is not an elite level player. Never will be.
So, really, our only option is to continue the rebuild through the draft, starting next year, in hopes that you get an elite player. The Leafs have none. Grabovski is good, Schenn is good, Kessel is good, but again, none of these is going to develop into a Crosby, Ovechkin, Toews or Lidstrom type player. And until you get one you're not contending for the Cup, bottom line. Superstars win you cups, not a bunch of "good" players.
Posted by: Luke R | 01/15/2011 at 01:59 PM
Jiggy has both a NTC and a sick child that needs to be in Toronto for medical treatment, so I'm not holding my breath waiting for him to be traded. And while our #1 and #2 are pretty even in terms of stats, Gustavsson is the more attractive bait. If he's not a 'fit' and they want to bring Reimer up long term, he's going to be shipped out...hopefully in exchange for the 'power forward' we so desperately need.
Posted by: Boo Who? | 01/15/2011 at 02:04 PM
To circle back to the original question, why is it either or? Aulie did not look out of place when playing with the big club, which says to me we can afford to move a D-man, without necessarily losing any competitiveness. As for the goaltending "controversy", I'm sure whether he was told so or not, Reimer could see that he was going back to Ricoh once Jiggy was healthy.
What I find interesting is the pick-up of Brunnestrom. I found it slightly odd, and slightly serendipitous, since we were in the running for him when he signed with Dallas. Goes back to what Dr. Waffles was saying earlier regarding the contracts.
Oh, Sensi-Bill, the point is moot now, but I figured it was home-made when you said "mac n' cheese". KD is missing and integral part of "mac n' cheese".
Posted by: red5 | 01/15/2011 at 02:36 PM
Hey folks, Burke has said in the past that he will not ask someone to waive his no trade clause. That is why Kaberle has only been on the market during the summer window when the no trade is not on the table. Having said that he also said if a player asks to be traded he will do all he can to trade him. These are his words. From the article post on the star now it looks like Jiggy may be open to a trade so we will see if Burke approaches him. I guess Burke can discuss a trrade and let Jiggy know that it is on the table and give him the option, but from what Burke has said in the past he will not ask a player to waive the no trade because they have earn that right. Every indication from him since he has been here makes me think he will not change that philosphy.
VM Replies: On a separate matter, I think you need to change your screen name back to Ken Baumgartner. Since I encouraged you to switch to Grabbo, he hasn't scored a goal. My bad.
Posted by: Grabbo | 01/15/2011 at 03:32 PM
Oh no, we do need the real Grabbo to be putting the bisquit in the basket.
I am all for good karma, so what is it folks Grabbo or Ken Baumgartner? I am thinking Bomber but I agreed with Grabbo because I thought it would help in the karma department. This is a fragile situation. They need all the good karma they can get right now. There is definately no room for error here.
Posted by: Grabbo or Ken Baumgartner / Bomber | 01/15/2011 at 04:00 PM
I guess someone's kidnapped Vinay again. I wonder what sort of ransom they are demanding. Millions?
VM Replies: I'm here! Why?
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 07:07 PM
@Moe Very curious to see how they play tonight. The game after a loss (after a win streak) is always so telling. It would also be a great time for the captain to do something noteworthy.
Posted by: Vinay Menon | 01/15/2011 at 07:13 PM
Good evening fellow diehard readers of the best blog on the internet.
VM Replies: Dr. Waffles!
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 07:18 PM
Is it safe to assume that Phaneuf put a grand on the bulletin board for this game?. We need a big game from Kessel, Phaneuf and of course the topic du jour, Giguere. Kiprusoff is 34, never would have guessed that he was older than Jiggy.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 07:22 PM
Cautious start to this game. It feels a bit like both teams know how crushing a loss would be to their chances to climb into contention. You have to beat the teams around you in the standings. Both teams are beatable on any given night, good time to see who wants it more, me thinks.
VM Replies: If they can pull this off and Dallas beats Atlanta, the playoff gap drops to 9 points.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 07:28 PM
This is a big one Vinay. I say it's going poorly so far - the fact that it's 0-0 is bad for the Leafs!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 07:37 PM
Dallas is a good team, I was shocked to see how well they have played since Toronto beat them rather handily. I really think that this team can do it. They will have to play like they REALLY, REALLY want it. Big PK here, Go Leafs Go.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 07:38 PM
Whew, that was a good PK. Even up penalty, we can make it 1-0 good guys right now. Lets get Kessel a one timer.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 07:41 PM
I don't get it. Where is the forecheck? Where is the intensity? Ugly so far. Where is my team. This is the team of the middle 30 games. I am confused. Is it the power of the Flames. Remember, the Flames are horrible.
VM Replies: Reimer!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 07:46 PM
What, are we tired again?
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 07:47 PM
This is one of those games where the Leafs are playing like they don't have to work hard. These are the kind they fritter away. There is no intensity. They are playing this game like they don't need it. I hate them.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 07:48 PM
Ok that was an ugly period of hockey. No harm done. Not sure where their legs are. Lets see how the energy level is in the second period.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 07:55 PM
Yeah I know. They could bring Reimer back when Versteeg returns.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 08:11 PM
Slo-mo game is back to begin the second. and the crowd is suitably dead.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 08:12 PM
STEELERS! YES! YES! YES! My love for the Steelers and their awesome success as the greatest team in NFL history with six Super Bowls kind of helps my love for the Toronto Maple Leafs. Pittsburgh wins a huge one 31-24 over Baltimore.
Leafs. Mueller in. Love it. Giggy in. Don't love it at all. Don't see him getting enough game action before the trade deadline to strut his stuff enough for any sane rational GM to take a flyer on him. Brown suspended for three games for what I thought was a clean hit, but I can certainly understand Campbell's crackdown on all head shots -real and perceived.
0-0 at the end of one. GO LEAFS GO!
CHEERS TO ALL HERE!
AN ECSTATIC STEELER FAN IN CHINA AND HOPEFULLY EVEN MORE ECSTATIC LEAF FAN WITH A WIN OVER THE FLAMES THIS MORNING LOCAL TIME.
Posted by: Pyramid Power (via email to VM) | 01/15/2011 at 08:13 PM
Grabov-what-the-shoot-ski!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 08:15 PM
Have they won a game with Lebda in the lineup? Is there a site that shows the teams record by players in the lineup?
VM Replies: They are 6-15 when he's playing.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 08:15 PM
a little more energy... third gear?
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 08:21 PM
Honda Odyssey commercial that just aired: What is that song? Who sings it?
Posted by: Vinay Menon | 01/15/2011 at 08:24 PM
missed it vinay sorry
VM Replies: The commercials are catching my attention. That's never a good sign.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 08:31 PM
if this crowd was in my office I don't think I would notice them.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 08:34 PM
Sorry Vinay, missed it. If it was the van beckons, it is The Hellion by Judas Priest.
VM Replies: It's a mellow tune. I'll investigate when there's nothing else to do. So maybe the third period.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 08:35 PM
I ahve seen this before. this is one of those games where the Leafs dont want to work very hard. they feel they should win this game with minimal effort. they have lost a dozen or so of these this year. usually against terrible teams like calgary.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 08:37 PM
Four minutes left in the second period and 11 Leafs have yet to register a shot.
Posted by: Vinay Menon | 01/15/2011 at 08:38 PM
This is the most unexciting, boring, slow game of hockey I have watched since I got suspended for 2 games in my beer league.
VM Replies: Why were you suspended?
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 08:43 PM
Vinay I was looking and is it Smoke Gets in Your Eyes by the Platters?
VM Replies: Hmmm. Let me check.
Nope. I think it's a new song. But I'm not sure.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 08:45 PM
they looked a little better toward the end of that period
VM Replies: palbo! In the broadcast booth!
Posted by: palbo | 01/15/2011 at 08:45 PM
Dallas up 1-0. Come on, you magnificent bastards. Find a way to bag this one.
Posted by: Vinay Menon | 01/15/2011 at 09:02 PM
ZZZZZZZ.........ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
VM Replies: The grogginess of this game is starting to make me laugh.
Posted by: Account Deleted | 01/15/2011 at 09:03 PM
I have watched bits and pieces here of this snoozefest and my buddy sent me a great text with what I will suggest is the best auto-correct mistake (replacing the Kaberle=Laverne auto-correct before). The original read "kesha-brent-orr is the shi**iest line in the NHL" followed by **Lebda. I didn't think it was possible for Lebda the defenseman to look worst until I saw Lebda the forward. If we can all see it, why does Wilson put him in the line-up and why isn't he on waivers? I know we supposedly have the deepest pool of prospects in the history of the NHL (right Nik?) so why haven't the leafs called up Caputi, Hanson or Irwin to replace this plug? The Versteeg injury seriously hampers the level of skills for the Leafs. Army was picking up pts at a pretty good pace playing with Versteeg.
A little ways back we were suggesting announcer/broadcasters that irritate us. Glen Healy. Nothing in particular, just him in general. He sounds like an angry little man. Gord Miller also needs to redefine what it means for a big body check to be laid as everyone gets "hammered into the boards" and every shot is a howitzer. It's raining out here again so maybe time to turn to beer to make this game watchable!!
VM Replies: Those auto-corrects are comedy gold.
Posted by: TG77 | 01/15/2011 at 09:06 PM
All the momentum of a great road trip, wasted. In seat service is not going to deliver the win on a platter. C'mon guys lets get after it.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:11 PM
Hang on Tim Brent is playing in this game?
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:14 PM
Thank god the Flames stink worse than the Leafs tonight. C'mon Leafs. Someone kick some ass on the bench. WIN THIS!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:22 PM
Oh great, Matt Stajan. These guys win this or they deserve the bottom. I hate this team!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:24 PM
This is a classic Leafs giveaway game. A no effort game. A coasting to the deadline game. Imagine if the Flames win this. The road trip success will be erased.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:26 PM
Why is Kaberle kneeling on the ice as Stajan stuffs in a rebound? WTF is up with that?
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:27 PM
dont worry tho, we will never lose this one... never
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:27 PM
Just imagine if Stajan ends our season. OMG. Can we legally hang Burke? I think under these circumstances.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:30 PM
I was very disappointed about the Phoenix game. tonight I am furious.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:33 PM
Why? Why? Why do they do this? 5 straight games with effort and intensity, tonight zero. Do they not realize that they aren't talented enough to coast thru the game like the outcome is an effin foregone conclusion. Its not ringette ladies, knock someone down, do something.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:34 PM
waffles, this game is the last straw. it's not over yet tho.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:34 PM
Lebda on for that goal, and Kabby decided to take a knee. Nice.
Stajan comes back to burn us. Where have Leafs fans heard that before? Ex-Leafs or Toronto lads torching us in the ACC? Standard and no surprise whatsoever.
See if we can tie it up here.
Posted by: Pyramid Power (via email to VM) | 01/15/2011 at 09:35 PM
thank sweet baby jesus... and by jesus i mean grabovski!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:37 PM
Grabbbbbbbbbbbooooooooooooooooooooo Ties the game.
VM Replies: I told you! As soon as Bomber drops "Grabbo" as his screen name, look what happens.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:37 PM
nice of them to try at the end
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:37 PM
I'm poor Moe I can't afford to break any more remotes. They are driving me absolutely crazy. This game has been a giant bag of poopie.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:40 PM
YES! YES! YES! YES!
GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAL! TIE GAME!
LET'S WIN THIS SH*T! GO LEAFS GO!
Posted by: Pyramid Power (via email to VM) | 01/15/2011 at 09:42 PM
Vinay, sooner next time please. It took him 59 minutes to do something.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:43 PM
lost my feeds - oh no - what ahppened? a good penalty?
VM Replies: Just killed the penalty.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:45 PM
nuke missed the net - what s shock
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:46 PM
That was not a penalty. That was an excellent backcheck by Kulemin.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:47 PM
Thank god for at least a point in a game we did not deserve to win. what a terrible effort. see how they tried at the end. bastards and not magnificent ones. Okay, bonus point time!
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:49 PM
Shootout, here we go lets steal the point.
Posted by: waffles2010 | 01/15/2011 at 09:49 PM
how does bozak not bury that? it hurts.
Posted by: moe | 01/15/2011 at 09:50 PM