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  • After 30 years as a reporter, feature writer and columnist for The Toronto Sun, Sandy is now a freelance writer, public speaker, mental health advocate and Seneca College instructor. You can learn more about Sandy here, and contact her here.

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July 03, 2009

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Francesca

Yes...and no.

I bought a cell phone plan when my daughter was 14, a phone for her and phone for me. Came about when I forgot we were meeting downtown and I went home, and for a whole hour I had no idea where she was and how to reach her. She simply climbed on a bus and came home, but I was freaking. (there's a whole history to the freaking the most important was that we'd just moved to a new city)

The phone freed me from helicopter parenting. I could text her and she could text me. It wasn't until the local folk festival 5 months later did we really take the communication to the next level. Pre-dating Twitter we'd text each other as to which stage we were at, who we liked and when we were getting together for dinner.

She's now 19 and went to college 6 hours north of me, very challenging having raised her the last 8 years by myself. But we could text (for free) and keep in touch. I knew her well enough to know when I needed to call, a turn of phrase, a crisis she wouldn't openly ask for help on, but would appreciate the immediate call that followed.

A few weeks ago her phone buzzed with a text at 7:30 am. Anyone who knows my daughter knows not to bother her until she's been awake for at least an hour. So I looked at her phone, a college friend had broken her leg! I woke the kid up to tell her a friend needed to talk. She knows I respect her privacy and only snoop for real reasons.

I don't think one form of communication is better or worse than another. I think they all have their time and place.

I would think video games (an oh yes we have 3 systems in our house - the Wii is MINE!!) do more harm in terms of isolating children, than methods of communication.

Our children get this style of communication, we stuggle with it, because we don't get it.

Thanks to Facebook I'm friends with her new college friends.

Yes as parents we can't use Facebook and texts as a subsitute for good parenting, making the phone calls, sitting down and just talking, but it is a new way of communicating. everything has a time and place.

Deb

I posed this question on my Facebook after reading your entry, and already have two answers "Yes teenagers are losing their abilities to communicate". That's from mothers who notice. Think of those that don't notice, or sadly do, and don't care.

But, I can see that Facebook sometimes has its use. For a shut-in, who can connect with friends and family who are at work. Or a stay at home mum such as myself, with kids, and staying in touch with friends. Or a quick text message from a friend whose boy had to be taken to the Children's Hospital. A brief "He's okay, just bruised" text message helped us all breathe a bit easier.

But, like anything moderation is the key. Why too much texting is bad: it does lose the very precious, very necessary face-to-face caring we can show.

Thanks for a wonderful rant on the evils of texting, and the joy of face-to-face communication. Sad, terribly sad on the vast increase of atypical anti-psychotics given to kids. Just, so terribly sad that they are seen as answers.

Sandy Naiman

Hi Francesca and Deb,

I hope you don't mind if I respond to your comments together.

First, forgive the length of this post. You're right, Deb. It was a bit of a rant. Usually, I'm a little more succinct and focused, but so many hot and resonant buttons were pushed in the last few days. Especially the disturbing news of the research finding from the University of British Columbia about the exponential rise and potentially dangerous use of neuroleptic drugs in young Canadian children.

So I let myself go. I should have done two posts instead of one. But there seems to be a connection. I learned an important lesson.

Anyway, Francesca.

I have no problem with teens having cell phones and TALKING on them. We gave my stepdaughter a cellphone when she was 16 and she kept us abreast of where she was and we always knew that if she ever needed our help, she was just a phone call away. She didn't do this by texting. My husband and I refuse to "text" on our cellphones. She is now 22 and calls us. Email is not the way we communicate.

However, my concern is the ubiquitous use in too many relationships, child to child, perhaps child to parent, of Texting on cellphones, Smartphones and through email, instead of having live conversations.

This growing trend away from conversation, I don't believe, is emotionally healthy. And it must be very "isolating" for children, especially young children, who don't get practice in verbal communication skills and human dialoguing. How many families all sit down at the dinner table at the same time and have conversations? The research on that is not pretty.

On the subway, there's no conversation. Not even eye contact. People wear their earphones and are locked in their iPod worlds of music or thumbing away on their Blackberries and iPhones. That wasn't always the case. I used to meet some fascinating people riding on the TTC. Now everyone is in an invisible bubble. Riding on public transit if very quiet.

People may be constantly connected, but I ask you what is the quality of that connection? As for Facebook, I use it. Not much. And I've met some interesting people and reconnected with longtime friends, too.

At the same time, I'm sure you've heard of the Facebook parties, when someone decides to "meet" his Facebook friends and invites them all – perhaps hundreds of them – to a have a drink and meet each other in a local watering hole? Of those hundreds, usually one turns up.

I wonder about the depth of Facebook "friendships" unless you go to the trouble to meet a Facebook "friend" face-to-face, as we have, and spend real time relating to each other. That takes an investment of time, energy and commitment.

Just wondering.

New ways of communicating are fine as long as they don't eradicate the art of conversation and the act of listening. Really actively listening and helping someone you care about feel that they are being heard and that you feel for them. A touch on the hand. A smile. A shared laugh. You can't do that online. Yet. Thank you for commenting and sharing so honestly. I know you are a wonderful mother to your daughter and you do converse. I hope all mothers and fathers are as involved with their children as you are in all the ways you are!

And Deb, I thank you for your kind and thoughtful note. Please keep me posted on the results of your Facebook poll. You are absolutely right when you state that "moderation is the key" – this is true for everything.

Since I had that conversation with my friend who wasn't talking on the telephone with her amour, she and he are now talking more on the telephone, I'm happy to report. She told him she felt she needed it. Good move. And it can be very romantic.

The sound of a live human voice speaks volumes and far more than the words said. They are just a form of coded communication. Language is complex.

We aren't talking about epistolary relationships of days gone by when lovers would sit and compose letters using pen and ink. Then mail them and wait for a response. Time played a huge role in the quality of this pre-cybernetic age-old process.

I think we all need to hear human voices. Sadly, we don't "enough" today, with the speedy demands of instant messaging, email, the space constraints of Twitter and other online communication tools rarely in sync with the two people communicating.

Romance, compassion, empathy – nuanced human dialoguing has to suffer. And is changing.

And we, humans, must be suffering, too.

I thank you both with all my heart for your candour, your insights, your precious contributions to our ongoing dialoguing, here. This is what builds community.

Affectionately,
sln

Sandy Naiman

Sonia was having problems posting her comment, so I am posting for her.

She writes:

Hello Sandy,

I really appreciate the matter-of-fact way you say, "and yes, I am still histrionic" ... that brought a giggle and a moment of happiness

Hello Deb,

Adult ownership of games is a treasure - my Nintendo DS is exactly that! Mine! ... I especially like the Sudoku!

Hello all,

My experience with communication technology: Canadians love to talk on the phone. I don't. When friends call, it is to set a time-place to meet, then hang up so we can get on with living. In contrast, my experience in southwest China: Chinese people love to send "sms" (short text messages) that vary between professional meetings to Twitter-like "I am washing my hair now". I enjoyed the sms because I could connect with friends across the country for a very (I mean very) small fee - nothing like what we have here in North America!

I also come from a stay-at-home-mother environment. She limited our TV time, encouraged us to play outside, used curfew as a precaution (not a punishment) and the idea that if we (any of her five children) left a clear note (author, time & date, reason for absence from home, destination), after the age of about 10-12 we were "free" to explore the world around us. Summer school was fun - games, movies, visits to out-of-town museums, theme parks, etc., as well as remedial in language arts, math and basic science. These latter were taught by people fascinated with those subjects - not 'regular' school teachers who would rather be on holidays.

I see all of these experiences as convincing evidence that spending time with people - all sorts of people - helps to develop a sense of community of which we now speak as an "ideal from the past" the same way we refer to Chivalry.

Tammy MacKenzie

Great post Sandy!
The problem is that we have gotten so busy, trying to keep up with so much in the entire world, that we no longer find/make time for people. Actual, live bodies that we can make eye contact with when we talk and exchange touch - a handshake, touch on a shoulder, hug - it makes us stop and live in the moment.
And our children learn it from us, through emulating our behaviour, and through our being too busy to be with them.
And the turning to drugs to tame the wild child who doesn't know how to cope, needs parental attention and time, is the worst symptom of the problem: the need to spend time with people, instead of throw moneying at something for a quick fix that keeps everyone else happy.
Today I have had 2 things provide very potent reminders of the need to stop, step back, step out of the crazy busy routines of life and focus on what's really important:
- a last-minute decision to attend a CD release party for the founder of the poetry collective I belong to. My daughter wanted to go. So we went together, spent the evening listening to great poetry from many wonderful, diverse people, in a small bookstore. Laughs, tears, conversation, hugs, interaction with engaged people.
- this article.
Thanks Sandy.
xo Tammy

Sandy Naiman

Hi Tammy,

Thank you for your kind words...

I wonder what we're so "busy" with? And perhaps it's time for a priority check. Busy at the expense of losing our connections with people? Our real "quality" connections? Face-to-face? Eye-to-eye? Touching connections. Laughing connections. Hugging connections?

At the expense of the emotional health and well-being of our children?

Just wondering? I think you know what I mean, but what about the rest of the world.

Here, we're thinking about these connections.

What about the rest of the world? The busy world. How I despise that word – busy.

Again, many thanks, Tammy.

Hugs to you!
sln

Laura K

Indeed we do seem so busy these days. Many of us (including myself) are so concerned with "saving time", but it seems if we were really saving time, we wouldn't be so busy, right? I think so many of us are trying to do so many things at a given point in our lives that we rarely enjoy any one of those things by living in that moment and that moment alone with little thought of what's next. It's always just rush rush rush to the next thing.
That being said, I can't say I quite understand the obsession with twitter, and texting lengthy conversations that seems to be the norm for my generation (I'm 27) and younger. From my point of view, it seems like teens do indeed form real and strong relationships and the texting is actually a sign of strength in those relationships...having to communicate in some form or another at all times with their friends, even if they may have seen their friends earlier that day.
As for the overall status of communication, I think email is more to blame...in my experience people aren't texting about what's really important however, before email one would have picked up the phone, interacted directly to the other party and cleared up most, if not all, miscommunications, sticking points and ways in which things could go wrong. Nowadays, that same conversation might occur over 20 emails back and forth. And people think they're saving time by sending off that email, which quickly evolves into hours of sub-par correspondence when a 20 minute conversation might have achieved a better result.

Ashley

I agree very much with the concept of the art of the conversation being slowly lost among teenagers and young people, and I wanted to share a little bit of my perspective as someone from that demographic.

I often feel that I have very few friends because not only do most people my age avoid talking and connecting over the phone, they also staunchly avoid social situations in which they might be forced to talk to other people. Trying to get together with some friends has proved very difficult and, in the end not worth it, because they either A) don't reply to my invitation, B) decline without giving a reason, or C) casually agree to come and then without any effort to get in touch with me and apologize for having to cancel, they don't show up.

The only times I ever get together with friends my own age there is always some kind of buffer or excuse for them not to have to talk to each other (music cranked to the highest volume possible, copious amounts of alcohol so you get so plastered you lose the motor skills necessary to speak, a movie or TV being watched, or the saddest of all which usually happens when the host of the party is male: watching a select few play video games). The only friends I have who are able to get together and have lively, fun conversations with are the people I've met from doing community theatre and most of them are at least 15 years older than myself.

I'm of the opinion that texting, e-mailing and facebook-ing are great for quick messages and for situations where it is otherwise difficult to talk on the phone or face-to-face (such as one of my only close friends my age who goes to university very far away and long-distance phone-calls are quite expensive but texting is free so we message each other in between our phone-calls every 3 months or so).

I feel like the only person my age who understands that these methods of communication should under no circumstances replace real connections. So I guess I just wanted to say thanks for posting about this topic and shedding some light on it, and also I hope that we can find someway to work on reversing this disconnect someday soon, because people my age who still value a good conversation are having a bit of a rough time finding someone to talk to!

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