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  • After 30 years as a reporter, feature writer and columnist for The Toronto Sun, Sandy is now a freelance writer, public speaker, mental health advocate and Seneca College instructor. You can learn more about Sandy here, and contact her here.

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January 13, 2010

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susan

Thank you for the shout out!

I think Americans are very insular in their politics and their world views- whereas, the rest of the world isn't. Maybe that is why there has been no discussion on the blogosphere on this brilliant article. Liz brought it up on Monday. There has been some Tweets and what not....

I am glad you liked the article Sandy. Take care, stay warm....... picture yourself with Marty an the dogs on a beach drinking ice teas.....

Sandy Naiman

Hi Susan and Sandra,

Thank you for your feedback and your leads to other sites that discuss this story.

I'm coming at this article from the inside. As a psychiatric patient in her 50th year of therapy. I'll be posting about my take on this next week.

Susan, you make a very good point about "U.S. insularity and world view" and I'm reminded of the famous Saul Steinberg's March 29, 1976 New Yorker Magazine cover of "The World As Seen from New York's 9th Avenue."

Have a look:

http://strangemaps.wordpress.com/2007/02/07/72-the-world-as-seen-from-new-yorks-9th-avenue/

As a Canadian, it doesn't take much research to see that. We're covered in snow up here year round and overrun with Mounties according to many living south of the border. Though that stereotype is changing, I sense.

Initially, I was sucked in by Ethan Watters critique of psychiatry. Then, my skepticism kicked in and I started asking a few questions. He skitters along the surface of very complex subjects and to be fair to him, his article in the New York Times Sunday Magazine is an adaptation from a book.

In order to really understand where he's coming from, you'd have to read his book just published this week. As yet, I have not.

So, see you next week and again, enormous thanks to you both for your help with this. It's a tough one for me. I am no anthropologist and overwhelmed by a challenging first week of school plus an unfortunate "yes" strike vote but with only 57% of Ontario faculty backing a strike. That's the worst case scenario. Negotiations will be very challenging. Students are very upset. I'm not a member of the Union, so I'll have to cross a picket line or break my contract and risk losing my job.

It's all very upsetting.

And far more than anything else, there's the heart wrenching devastation in Haiti.

Speak soon.

sln

Carolyn

As a teacher Sandy, I'm going to give you some unsolicited advice. Have one rule for class discussions, respect the whole class or leave. So, state your point, no matter how controversial, but wait your turn, and don't interrupt. If someone breaks the rules ask them to leave. Otherwise, quiet but just as valued voices get lost in the mix. I guarantee, after the first time you ask someone to leave, it will never happen again. Everyone can have a point of view but they get hijack the conversation.
As a teacher you can and will get worn down by the emotions, lives and expressions of your students. They effect each other too. It is important thus, to control the environment.

Don't want to sound preachy, but I've been there...

elizabeth clarke
Rossa Forbes

I commented on the Watters article in my blog Holistic Recovery from Schizophrenia: A Mother and Son Journey. Rather than see the article as just another put-down of how USA-centric psychiatric labelling has become, the bigger point to me is that since Western countries have such a poor track record with mental health outcomes we should pay serious attention to why under-resourced countries do it better.

Peter Harris

Like everything else that involves the elephant in the room - America - we all have our reservations about psychiatric care being without a necessary world view. After all, America is the country that introduced the Super Big Gulp and 4 patty Big Macs to the world.

Needless to say, I find the size and depth of that country when it comes to on-line resources is incredibly powerful. I can remember times when the only other shoulder to cry on - barring CAMH hospitalization - were the About.com bipolar disorder discussion forums with live support. That said, where would we be without the 1-2% of citizens of the United States to commiserate with about our shared psychiatric problems?

I'm definitely for more USA USA USA.

Also, I just wanted to send a shout out via your blog about a new Wordpress blog I am authoring to coincide with working with others in a peer support role to improve Internet communication skills to alleviate the pain of bipolar disorder - http://thestar.blogs.com/mentalhealth/rss.xml

I hope and pray that even though rapid cycling BP is a total life headache, Some of your readers can befriend me and work together...Thanks for the time on-line...I'm Peter Harris on Facebook - previously known as other aliases on the Coming Out Crazy blog. Friend me!

Sandy Naiman

Peter, here I disagree strongly.

I am not for more USA! Not by a long shot!!!

Here, we are conservative and careful. We are also compassionate and humane. We have universal health care. Sadly, it's sometimes hard to find a psychiatrist, but there are many options open to us, like some of the new agencies popping up offering all kinds of psychiatric and psychological support.

Like Metamorphosis ~ The Toronto Psychosomatic Clinic in North York. It promotes "Emotional Fitness." I love that phrase.

http://74.53.90.154/~cmoseley/

Trained psychiatrists, psychologists and social workers help and heal people with a range of mental, emotional and addiction issues from drug addictions to phobias, anxiety attacks and panic problems to migraines, weight loss and anger management. There are more and more of these clinics opening in Toronto and I'm sure, in other regions for specific mental health problems. Especially because there is a shortage of psychiatrists and increasingly, family doctors are overwhelmed with having to treat issues they may not be qualified to handle.

Do you know that the only two countries in the world allowed to advertise pharmaceuticals on television are the U.S. and New Zealand. Think about that. It's a real problem.

So, without going into a diatribe about Big Pharma and the ethics of some leading U.S. academics in psychiatry and their dubious and unethical research practices, you can see why I will have to disagree with you.

The U.S. is not a panacea, I'm afraid.

I'm very happy to live right here in Canada and particularly in an urban centre. Living in rural areas with a mental health issue can be very isolating and help can be almost impossible to access.

Thanks for commenting.

Take care and speak soon!

sln

Rossa Forbes

Well, I may be hopelessly out of date, but CAMH only six years ago was telling us that our son had a hopeless brain disease. He was given Effexor and Respirdal and told he had a lifelong illness. CAMH's recommended reading was Dr. E. Fuller Torrey, not my idea of someone who's leading the charge in new ways of understanding mental health. It's no different than the system in the country where I currently reside. All countries have consumer groups, there's nothing unusual about Canada in this respect. When the big institutions begin to change, that's when we'll know something unusual is happening.

Sandy Naiman

Rossa,

This doesn't surprise me.

But six years is a long time in the world of mental health. Albeit, I am very wary of major mental health institutions that talk "recovery" but don't practice it. I'm very sorry this was your experience.

I would steer far from E. Fuller Torrey if I were you. Why not look into the work of Patricia Deegan or Mary Ellen Copeland.

Here are some links. They may hold more hope for you as does the whole Community Mental Health and Recovery world which, sadly, gets very little support or help in mainstream psychiatric medicine.

http://www.patdeegan.com/

You might find this interesting, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jhK-7DkWaKE

And this:

http://www.mentalhealthrecovery.com/aboutus.php

And this, too:

http://www.yale.edu/PRCH/about/aboutrecovery.html

There are a number of recovery resources in Toronto that can offer you and your son more hope than CAMH.

I hope you'll consider looking outside the biomedical model. That's just one approach. There are many others. And many tools to help you.

Consider the Family Outreach & Response Program which has two locations. One in downtown Toronto and the other in Scarborough:

http://www.familymentalhealthrecovery.org/

One thing is certain. Your son does not have "brain disease." That term is damaging. I detest it. Try to distance yourself from the labels. Your son is your son. He is unique as is his experience. We are all unique. I wish you well.

Take good care.
sln

Rossa Forbes

Thank you, Sandy, for your thoughtful and helpful reply. I will check out your links. Keep doing what you are doing
. .. Rossa

Sonia

Hello Sandy,

I haven't read the Watters' article - time constraints and marking yet to do - but I get the feeling that panacea seems to be on the table, yet again. As a concept, "one size fits all" or the musketeer "one-for-all and all-for one", just doesn't seem to fit all.

As an example, I will go way off topic, seemingly. In Canada, I am neither tall, nor short, neither thin, nor plump. Other than my hair (8 colours, and growing longer), I could walk in a crowd, unnoticed. I think this is ok. However, where I am now, I must look at clothes marked "xxxl" in order to find something that fits - depending on the brand, pattern, etc. It really bothered me when I first was here (2002-2004), and it continues to irk as most of the sales clerks for women's clothes are men who don't mind commenting in their language (partly unintelligible to me, still) on how tall, big and fat I am, compared to the women native to this area.

The impact on my self-image and self-esteem is as corrosive, and might I say "erosive", as it is cumulative.

Then, let's visit one of my classes of undergraduate students. Many of my students have enjoyed lessons with a foreign teacher in their middle school, yet for some, I am their first foreign teacher. The comments that persist, year after year (this is the 5th school year I begin in this part of the world), focus on the shape of my body as it is different to their own - broader shoulders, longer limbs, bigger feet, longer fingers, colourful hair, etc. Intent aside, this wears one down as the questions become predictable.

As I prepare for next term (which begins March 1), I feel as though I were stranded in a shallow pebbled river of fast moving water - slippery, unstable, and just as far whether I step forward, or back.

All this to say: the words of others, including diagnostics, often don't fit because we are not comfortable discussing those details that would give a complete picture, thus helping to describe our feelings, perceptions, our hopes and aspirations, as well as our fears and confusions.

If I were to describe the history that has lead to 2010, as I am now ... there would be so much confusion, so many more prying questions. Few people take the time to delve deeply into their own complexities, let alone the statements of others (Watters, for instance), to try to understand where they stand, their centre (spiritual, intellectual, emotional, physical).

ps: Sandy, I received "The Massage" ... thanks

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