Yesterday morning at 11:55 a.m., I spoke to Angela briefly several hours after she had her second ECT treatment at the University Health Network – Toronto General site. She sounded sleepy, so tired, we agreed to connect later.
I called at about 9:30 p.m. and there was no answer. I sent her an email and at 6:51 a.m. this morning, she wrote:
"I spent most of the day and evening sleeping. Sorry I missed your call. All is well. I was tired yesterday. Had a tiny bit of confusion after the treatment but it cleared up quite quickly. I'm awake at the moment but will likely have a nap..."
At 8:30 a.m. Angela called to give me a more detailed report.
First, I asked her about her muscles and the aching she felt after her first ECT treatment on Monday.
"It's all gone and this time, it wasn't a problem. I had a little headache, but I took two regular Tylenols and they took it away," she said.
"NO SIDE EFFECTS AT ALL"
I asked her about her "tiny bit of confusion."
She said, "It was really mild. It was like, I knew what I wanted to say but I couldn't find the words. It was like, if I got up to go the kitchen to get something, when I got there I couldn't remember what I wanted. But then, I'd think about it and I'd remember. It lasted for about two hours, but it wasn't at all debilitating. It was very transient and extremely mild and it went away."
Her ECT treatment experience yesterday mirrored her Monday treatment, "except I was first and I had a different anesthesiologist. I liked the first one better," she said. "The first one explained everything he was doing and this one didn't talk to me. And yesterday, there were students there. Nursing students. But it's a teaching hospital. I don't mind."
I wanted to be sure about the side effects, so I said, "So this time, would you say that two hours after your second ECT treatment, you had no side-effects?"
Angela said, "That's right. No side effects at all."
Again, she said she came out of the anesthetic quickly and easily and was back home at about 9:30 a.m.
Since starting her ECT treatments on Monday, Angela also reported that she hasn't had any suicidal thoughts.
"There's a difference," she said. "I'm still emotional about things, certain things still upset me, but they're not as upsetting. The 'upset' isn't as prominent. But it could be a placebo effect."
I asked her about her appetite.
"It's extremely poor, but that's been 'my normal' for several months. Me and appetite is a funny thing," she added. "I was anorexic when I was younger. Now, I tend to forget about eating. I think it's because of the medication. It has a lot of anorexic properties."
I suggested she might monitor that a bit and we signed off. She sounded positive and during our conversation she giggled more than I had remembered in recent months. Monday, she'll have her third ECT treatment and this weekend, she's going away with her man.
"ECT IS LIKE ABORTION – IT'S A RED-FLAG"
Meanwhile, your silence is deafening. There have been no comments here for close to a week. Only a couple on my Networked blog on Facebook, questioning my sanity in pursuing this coverage.
You're probably wondering why I'm spending so much time on ECT, a hot-button issue in the world of mental health that fires up emotions of anger, fear and irrationality.
Dr. Bob and I have often discussed electroconvulsive therapy. He compares it to abortion because it's so hotly-debated and emotionally-driven. "It's a red flag. I don't think it will ever come to any resolution," he has often said.
We've talked about it because of my own relatively benign experience with it more than 40 years ago and more recently because of the rabid reaction I received the last time I posted about it. I was raked over the coals in several personal email messages from David W. Oaks of MindFreedom International which is leading a zealous campaign against "forced" or "involuntary" ECT treatments, apparently administered in the U.S. and other countries.
Over the weekend, I received this message on my Facebook account from a leading U.S. mental health advocate:
Darby Penney wrote, "Sandy, you say you 'know a lot' about ECT, but it doesn't sound like you advised your friend about the very real risks of permanent memory loss and brain damage from ECT. Or the fact that recent peer-reviewed research found that there's no basis to psychiatry's oft-repeated opinion that ECT is effective in preventing suicide. I'll bet her psychiatrists didn't tell her about these things either..."
(I value peer-reviewed research, but I also value scientific studies like the multi-site neuropsychological study that Angela is involved in. The principal investigator is psychologist and senior scientist Brian Levine of Toronto's Rotman Research Institute at Baycrest that is investigating memory loss at a cellular level will be completed in about one year. I'll keep you posted.)
As for the issue of "forced" ECT, it's a huge hornet's nest and I'm not going into it right now (but I will), except to say that MindFreedom International is essentially an anti-psychiatry, consumer-survivor and psychiatric-survivor-driven organization.
To clarify... you know that I am not anti-psychiatry. Nor do I identify with any political anti-psychiatry movement, or any movement. I'm not anti-anything. I am pro-Recovery. I am pro-open mindedness. I'm interested in learning as much as I can about everything related to mental health and wellness. I value individual experiences as well as academic research. I listen to everyone.
I detest labels of any kind. If you're going to label me anything, label me "human."
I am interested in history. I am interested in truths. I accept that there is no absolute truth, except that one. There are many truths. We all have our own truths. That said, in this series, I am simply following the experiences of a 36-year-old Toronto-born woman suffering with severe drug-resistant depression and suicidal ideation through a course of electroconvulsive therapy – which she decided to have one her own without any prompting or even suggestion from her psychiatrist.
Let's see what happens.
THE ANTI-PSYCHIATRY MOVEMENT ATTACKS
Historically, the anti-psychiatry movement has been attacking ECT for hundreds of years and it includes "writers, former patients (not all of whom have fully recovered), physicians, legislators and several prominent anti-psychiatry psychiatrists, most notably Thomas Szasz and R. D. Laing," according to Zigmond M. Lebensohn, MD., Chief-Emeritus, Department of Psychiatry, Sibley Memorial Hospital, Washington, in his article "The History of Electroconvulsive Therapy in the United States and Its Place in American Psychiatry: A Personal Memoir," from the May/June 1999 (Vol. 40, No. 3) issue of Comprehensive Psychiatry.
Tufts University clinical psychiatrist Ron Pies, MD (who kindly and generously takes the time to answer any question I ask him) adds this: "The general mistrust of institutional psychiatry in the U.S. (and elsewhere) is often fostered (ironically) by some in the mental health field, including several well-known psychiatrists who have written influential (if misguided) books.
"Unfortunately, the association of institutional psychiatry with involuntary commitment raises fears about psychiatric treatments in general, including but not limited to ECT. (By the way, most people in the U.S. are not aware that it is a judge, not a psychiatrist or other physician, that "commits" a patient to long-term, involuntary hospitalization, which varies from state to state in the U.S.)."
Today, from what Angela is reporting, ECT bears no resemblance to the way it is often portrayed sensationally by Hollywood – cruelly, as a form of social control. These images have polluted our perceptions of this treatment used primarily in cases where patients have intractable depression and in some cases (like Angela's) may be dangerous to themselves because of their suicidal thoughts.
In "earlier ECT procedures – 'bilateral' involving both sides of the brain – significant memory problems were more common," reports Pies. "With the newest ECT techniques most studies using neuropsychological testing have shown no significant residual memory problems six months after ECT. But, there are isolated cases in which substantial memory problems may be reported for unclear reasons. These are often the cases that get written up or circulated on the Internet anti-psychiatry websites." (See the Ray Sandford case.)
"Much less publicized are reports of the many thousands of highly successful cases of ECT use, without any substantial or pervasive memory impairment, using the most modern ECT techniques."
And doesn't this make sense, when you think about it?
After all, how many of us are running around trumpeting to the world our psychiatric histories and all the therapeutic tools of all kinds that have helped us to live meaningful, productive and successful lives.
If only more people did...









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