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September 09, 2008

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Craig A

re: Olajuwon and the hall of fame

The 1995 Western Finals made me love Olajuwon's game. I have never seen a player more thoroughly dominate an entire playoff run the way Olajuwon did that year. His play vs David Robinson was at an even higher level:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hW4uXlRGAF0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYFV06e2blE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sx5lSt4f4m0

Sal Lamberti

Hey Doug,
I'm surprised you left Alvin Williams off your list. Correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe he had one of the biggest standing ovations a couple of years back.

Blogger's note: Actually, Alvin never played a game against the Raptors in Toronto after he was acquired in 1998. He had a 10-day contract with the Clippers in 2006-07 but was released a couple of days before they came here.

Marc in Burlington

Doug,

The whole thing about AD wasn't so much about how he played on the court, but rather the disparaging things he said about Canadian Culture that annoyed so many people. Granted, he took a page right out of H.W.S.N.B.N playbook and loafed his last couple of weeks here forcing the trade, but his comments about his kids learning the metric system et all were insulting to a lot of us. However, there were games that he played that Antonio Davis was the reason that a W was marked in the column. Which brings me to another point...
People will say what they will about T.J. Ford, but he too was a guy that left it on the floor most games. Take a look at his assists people, he wasn't a me first kind of guy, like Mike James (except for one stupid game where he thought he had something to prove after coming back and finding he had been supplanted as the #1 guard) To my mind TJ acted a lot like the rest of us would have, had we been told that the position we had been hired for was now going to be shared with a subordinate, who wouldn't you mind training too? TJ Ford was a guy that was happy to come here and play, unlike some of his other NBA brethren, and was given a raw deal because he was traded for a fan favourite in Charlie V. Hard to tell who's had the better career since the trade in that case isn't it?

I liked the fact that TJ had a bit of 'tude about losing his job. I liked the fact that he worked hard to get back on the floor. I liked the fact he wanted to play here. I also liked the fact that Jose picked up his game too, and challenged TJ. In the end the efforts of both of these players resulted in our GM to have the option to move a "small for a big" and change the identity of this team.

I wish TJ Ford well in his career and hope he plays to the best of his ability every night. Every night except the nights against the Raptors that is...

Vincent Lam

I loved Olajuwon. I think he was the best centre of his generation. He bested Patrick Ewing, Shaq, and David Robinson in the playoffs. He was a great scorer, passer out of the double team, shot blocker and defensive stud. As big a Raptors fan as I am, I don't think he should have ever left Houston.

But since he was a backup as a Raptor, does that mean Eric Montross deserves to be in the Hall of Fame too?

GM

Did Olajuwon's issues with Wilkins predate their time together in Toronto? What were they?

Do you always travel with the team during the preseason. If I'm not mistaken, many papers don't even send their beat guys to road exhibition games -- they just get a stringer from that city to do the game story. The season is long enough as it is. You don't need to be doing that. Tell your bosses to give you a break.

Blogger's note: The "issues," I'm told, first surfaced when they were coach-player in the 1996 Atlanta Olympics; and, believe me, not travelling to pre-season games would be fine with me; in fact, I believe I'm out of the back-to-back in LA and the game in Edmonton this year to get ready for the long season.

JM

Watching some of these videos brought back the memories - Hakeem was a legend.

ugly_fish

I love VINCE CARTER! Give the man the respect he deserves...none of this "He shall who not be named" BS. He put Toronto on the map; he was electric. We might be the Tenessee Raptors if it wasn't for Carter. I miss VC in the purple and black and how every game it was a sure-fire highlight reel. Remember when TNT and NBC actually cared about the Raptors??? Jesus all of US Raptor fans have been blinded and forgot how much BETTER things were when Vince was here during his early run as a dino. The Raptors will never have anyone as talented as Vin-Sanity ever again. Chris Bosh is an All-Star but I emphasize that he will never be a SUPERSTAR from a talent or marketing standpoint. I can't believe Babcock traded Air Canada for a bag of beans and all you foolish media homers preached the "addition by subtraction" argument. Are you kidding? This man averages 25 5 5 and can get 50 on any given night. He smoked us in the 07 playoffs and he avgd 21 6 5 this past season on ONE ankle.
Do you blame Vince for wanting to leave???? I mean our freaking GM was Rob Babcock!!! And dont get me wrong; but Sam Mitchell isnt the greatest coach in the world; I mean how do you bench BOTH Vince Carter AND Jalen Rose in a close 4th Q against the Jazz?
If anything...it's the Raptor organization; specifically Richard Peddie who wronged Vince. If anything we should hate Peddie for hiring Babcock. Vince is the franchise player and during the 04-05 campaign you advertise mo-pete, jalen rose, CB4 and....Rafer Alston???? No Vince posters??? VC is the most marketbale player in the Canada AND U.S. no wonder he felt direspected after all he's done.
I wanna see the Raps get another player that can go toe-to-toe with a in his prime MVP Allen Iverson for 50 points.
The point is...the organization spat in Vince's face and somehow turned Toronto against him when Vince did what any sensible person would have done. So with that; I beg Vince to come back and I wish I could let him know that WE were the ones who were wrong and to come back to Toronto where he belongs.

Justin

Maybe you're dry in the inbox because it takes you so long to approve the comments

Blogger's note: I'm not sure what one has to do with the other and, quite frankly, with a couple of weeks of vacation from the real job, I don't have this machine on eight or 10 hours a day. But thanks for the suggestion.

petro

Doug... I've been telling people about Dick Vitale's Hall of Fame Induction speech... especially my friends who are first generation Canadians. Problem is, I can't find it anywhere (youtube only has 6 minutes of it). Did you see his speech, if so what did you think, and any leads on where I can find the full speech?

Blogger's note: I'd sure try ESPN.com, or even the Hall of Fame site itself

Nick M

First off, well put by Marc in Burlington.

For the person looking for the Dick Vitale Speech I watched it at:
http://broadband.nba.com/cc/playa.php?content=video&url=http://boss.streamos.com/wmedia/nba/nbacom/hof/hof_speech_vitale.asx&rss=true&siteid=rss

If that doesn't work go to www.truveo.com and search Dick Vitale; pick the video titled 'Hall of Fame Speech: Dick Vitale' from NBA.com I found this to be the only one that showed the whole speech. Trust me, it is worth every minute.

Justin

If you approve comments faster people can read them and they create discussion and thus more comments.

Blogger's note:Thanks for helping me set up my work days.

Tabber

Maybe Justin's looking for a job? If those are the only sort of comments, I'm surprised you approve them at all. And gotta love the revisionist histories on VC, TJ and AD. But I've noticed I watch games differently than most people, and millionaires slacking off tend to piss me off big time, and all three of those guys had their times of slacking off AND looking bored.

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