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January 20, 2009

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Lola

My big worry, after watching Jamario with the press after the game, was that he does not get it, not in his heart of hearts.

Jerry

I really disagree with Bosh yelling at his teammates, especially when he makes a stupid turnover instead. Leadership does not consist of yelling. Maybe K.Garnett can get away with it, but not a 23 year old who has not earned the right. It is more likely to lead to resentment by teammates. Maybe this is partly the cause of the lack of effort.

pete

hey Doug, I never thought of the reason why Bosh isnt good for the last shot, but you are completely right. Nowitzki is the only one that can do it sometimes, but only because he has a good long range jump shot. I know Bargnani isnt as good as Nowitzki (yet), but he has a much better jump shot than Bosh. This should mean that Bargnani should take the clutch shot at least occasionally. My question Doug, has this fact been brought up by the coaching staff?

Blogger's note: I'm sure they've thought of it

Boko

Bosh is by far our best player. Calderon & Bargnani can be at the next level down, but Moon doesn't seem to be headed in that direction. He's too concerned with getting numbers that will maximize his chances of more money with his next contract. I've said it before, and I'll say it again, being on a playoff series winning team is the best number one can have. Rebound. Block shots. Steal the ball. SET PICKS, SCREENS, PASS THE BALL, AND GO TO THE GLASS ON OFFENSE!!!!!!!! The pot of gold is at the end of THAT rainbow!!!!!!!!

RS

Since there is no way they will re-sign Marion in the offseason, does it parhaps make more sense to trade JO in a straight salary dump (for example, Marbury who would then be cut).

Seems like the season is lost anyway and this way they have more cap space and not Banks' bad contract.

Thoughts?

Blogger's note: Get somebody who can play 30 or 35 games or a guy who won't? I'd always want a guy who can help for at least a few games.

Alex

I just noticed the blog background is no longer some cryptic latin dialect...actual english now. Way to go Doug! "nos postulo a lucror"

That finish...wow does that ever sum up the Raps problems...but this isnt the first time we've seen a late game collapse, either to cough up a lead and lose or fail to win with clutch buckets...probably the 6-7th game like that IMO.
Totally agree that we shouldnt have a big man trying to dribble-drive and create for the game winning shot...not gonna work.

As for Moon, sure he made all the wrong decisions but the coach puts him out there so he's doing what he thinks he should do. If he were kept on the bench and played a smaller role like he would on most teams this wouldnt happen.

Question: Do you think Moon is back in the league next season? I think he'll get 1+million/year but hopefully as an 8th man...and not necessarily here.

Blogger's note: I think he'll get at the very least a non-guaranteed deal somewhere.

Jason

Doug,
Andrea took the game tying three a week ago on a busted play and drained it. I agree, he should be given a chance on a play drawn up for him. The play should be a screen and drive or a kickout from Bosh
Also, for all those that think Bosh should be taking the last shot you are all wrong. Bosh always gets a double or triple team because no one else can make the shot on the Raps. Keep in mind that guys like Shaq, Howard, Duncan etc... very rarely have the final play drawn up for them so why would Bosh? Its always best to have you Guard or SF create something on a drive or screen and let the big guys set screens,open up space, then go for the rebound.

DougG

I hope BC isn't waiting around to see if Miami wants Jo so we can end up with nothing at the end of the year, in exchange for the only assets, we were willing to trade, going into the season. I'm also glad you pointed out that it isn't Moon's fault that he is the starting forward, on a team with great expectations, given that he is 2 years removed from the D league. Say what you will about hockey at least the players in that league play with minor injuries. I'm not ready to throw in the towel on BC yet but it is very disconcerting to know that he thinks he has a high caliber team here.

ro

As a psychologist (really) I agree with you about team sports and a sports psychologist, unless you're going to get a team in group sessions (not gonna happen).
Oh, and Bargnani hit an end of game shot a couple of years ago, didn't he? I would trust him and AP (didn't he hit that big three against the Wiz)?

GP

Doug,

Is Moon a free agent after this season? I'm not sure if the stats back it up but he seems to be settling for jump shots and not driving to the basket as much as he did last year. Perhaps he would like to get his scoring up and reduce the risk of injury if he is indeed a free agent at the end of the season? I guess that would earn him more money and make him appear more desirable (on paper anyway). Thoughts?

Anthony

Doug,
What do you think about a trade with the Bulls, the main pieces would be JO and Ben Gordon along with another player or cash to make the contacts work.
Gordan CAN create his own shot which is something we desperately need, he also can hit the 3, play backup point guard and his contact is very friendly. If this guy was hinting at playing over seas I'm sure he would be willing to play over the boarder. With AP moved up to SF it would give us a nice balance between half-court sets and fast breaks.

Blogger's note: Not getting into specifics of a trade because Ben Gordon won't be traded. If he is, he loses his Bird rights so I can't imagine he gives his permission to be dealt.

nasko

Hi Doug,
Not sure about sports psychologists in basketball, but do know for sure that every good/big soccer club in Europe has one. Just thought that if it did work in soccer why not in b-ball?

Michael

Would someone please compile some video footage of Moon's play last year compared to this year, then lock him in a room for 24hrs and run the tape over and over!

WildAce

Nick Anderson hired a shrink after the 1994 NBA Finals because all of his missed FTs led to the Magic getting swept. I can't remember if it was right after the finals or a bit later but he did state on an interview he needed to hire a shrink because he thought it was his fault that Orlando didn't win a game, and that he'd be a liability in the future.

kb

soccer players are our example of the benefits of sports psychologists? yikes.

I am not so sure about Bosh's yelling being something that shows leadership ... emotion and energy are great but Moon's reaction to the yell showed that there may not be enough respect for Bosh to be able to call out guys (maybe just Moon?). Could it be that Bosh is really just trying to distance himself from a very bad team?

Ekim D

I couldn't be happier with Bosh for publically berating Moon; I only hope he continued his barrage in the locker room. I also hope that Colangelo and Triano were paying attention. I've been of the opinion that Moon should ONLY be playing off the bench, and that no team that considers itself to be a playoff team (even in the East) should have someone with such terrible decision-making skills on the court as a starter. I hope that Moon's quotes after the game light a fire under Triano to scale back on his role - I almost fell off my chair when a 30% 3-pt shooter said he'd take that same shot again b/c it was a good look. He acted as though he did the right thing by taking a 3-pt shot early in the shot clock in the final minute of a close game. He's got to go to the bench - now! What was the sense in the locker room after the game?

Ryan

"Would someone please compile some video footage of Moon's play last year compared to this year, then lock him in a room for 24hrs and run the tape over and over!"

Mike - We want to help him, not torture him!
By watching himself play, his brain would be permanently fried.

Adil

Seeing Bosh this frustrated and reading comments from fans that are somehow blaming HIM for the Raptors' downfalls really worries me. If things continue the way they're going and Bosh leaves in 2010 I can't say I'd blame him.

jhaus

doug, i gotta agree with the JO for marbury proposal. i believe you suggested yesterday that the raps likely wouldnt be able to win enough games to get a playoff spot and even if they did they wouldnt get out of the first round. so, what is 'help for at least a few games' going to do for this team at all (other than reduce our balls in the lottery)? i would pull the trigger on this trade in a milli-second, take the 1 million back from marbury and get the cap space for this summer. the only problem is that i cant really see whats in this for NY! but, in theory, thats a done deal for me.

Larry Boutilier

Hi,

Fortunately, I chose not to watch the end of the Atlanta game.
The game was lost when Ukic entered the game with a nice Raptors lead at the end of the third and the coach kept him in
the fourth. By then the Hawks had the lead, game over.

reuben

Hi Doug
So is Colangelo still standing by his this is the best team I've assembled in Toronto comments because I'm pretty sure the teams the last two years were way better.

Ekim D

I'm surprised anyone would defend Moon or call out Bosh for yelling at Moon. The guy does not get it, he makes the same stupid mistakes over and over, and coddling him has obviously not worked. He makes less than 1 in 3 of his 3 pt attempts, but still doesn't hesitate for a second to take them (esp. at the end of a close game with plenty of time on the clock!). I mean - come on people, what is he thinking? He seems to be the only person that thinks he's on the floor to do anything other than play defense (which he was also terrible at). I agree with the comment above about how Moon must feel he's got the green light to play like this since they put him out there in key moments, so it must be on the coaching staff a little as well. However, I would assume that his instructions - the reason they put him out there - is to play defense and grab rebounds. I would have to believe that he's the 4th of 5th option in end of game offensive situations. But - it must be on the coaches - if he was sent out for a defenive scheme, but hoists up terrible shots, they have to nail his butt to the bench.

Claudio DiG.

I'm stunned: fans in TO still speak about "how to get to the top of the NBA", or "how to make us a contender"!!!
And you Doug, "filii mihi": "I’m giving Jamario a pass today. What’s the sense in piling on?":
BAD ATTITUDE. The fans need to open their eyes,the writers (even supposed as educators) must bring another tone in commenting. There's no need of understating: we are not in danger of a bloody revolution anyway! Just let the things happen their way: from the real mess to the sky!
Keeping our own cool, though. Thanks

Kevin Van Der Zwaag

Hey Doug, perhaps what was missed a little during the game is the Raptors lack of ability to maximize mismatches? Yes Jamario made some poor decisions at the end, but failing to capitilize on a 6 foot point guard checking him on the block? Atlanta played to a good plan; put a tiny guy on Jamario he only shoots jumpers anyways and they can slack off of him clog up lanes and create a stagnant offense.

Felix

RE: Marion. While I do have very little actually against him as a player, I think I would be against this trade because of the implications it has for the coming off-season. As you alluded, he would not be re-signed, which is fine because he is not worth that much money. So here we would sit with about 14 million to sign a FA SF. Who out there will make a realistic difference on our roster? 4 have been named in the past: Marion, Odom, Turkoglu and Artest. Those 4 probably believe they are worth max money; however, are they? No. I worry that we will end up giving someone max money that does not deserve it and it will end up being a harder contract to move in the future than the JO deal that expires in 2 years. I know it hurts the fans for the raps to lose, but i'd rather put up with another 1.5 years of losing than 5-10 years of 1st round exits (which is how our current roster is built if we played to potential and stayed injury-free).

If I were GM, which I clearly am not, I would not make this deal only because there should not be an urgency with this club. Bosh, Bargnani and Calderon are still young; Marion will not make us instant contenders, and either will Odom, Turkoglu or Artest so why clear up the cap space now? Might as well pool together some young talent through drafting and then in 2010 try to re-sign Bosh and another young vet to plug the holes. And if you don't re-sign Bosh, then at least you have some young players coming up, as opposed to constantly toiling in mediocrity coupled with not getting a lottery pick AND not having cap flexibility if we traded for Marion now.

I hope that makes sense, and hope, Doug, that you can comment on all if not some of these points.

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