Comments on Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip TorontoTypePad2010-06-27T03:26:02ZToronto Starhttps://thestar.blogs.com/photoblog/tag:typepad.com,2003:https://thestar.blogs.com/photoblog/2010/06/peaceful-beginings-violent-ending-as-g20-protests-grip-toronto/comments/atom.xml/Vanguard commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef01a3fbf8dbe3970b2014-01-10T05:13:57Z2014-01-10T13:04:45ZVanguardMany of the so-called "anarchists" are agents provocateur, meaning that they are planted by the authorities to infiltrate the march...<p>Many of the so-called "anarchists" are agents provocateur, meaning that they are planted by the authorities to infiltrate the march and cause it to devolve into violence. The first "anarchist" to throw a rock or break a window is most certainly a provocateur. The rest that join in are stupid young idiots that don't know shit about shit and probably never will. People who love progress should shun such protesters.</p>Clinton commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef016766c1b385970b2012-05-24T20:35:16Z2012-05-24T20:59:11ZClintonHow come the mcguinty government can impose martial law on the streets of Toronto when Our constitution says this can...<p>How come the mcguinty government can impose martial law on the streets of Toronto when Our constitution says this can only be imposed in Canada during times of war. How come (according to Our constitution) the police and their superiors, politicians included, can commit human rights violations and when it goes to court it's reported as misconduct ?</p>Toronto Classifieds commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0148c8401e4d970c2011-02-02T06:28:23Z2011-02-02T06:28:23ZToronto Classifiedshttp://www.canadadeals.caIn my opinion G20 is one of the most violent protest I ever seen in Toronto, Being a Toronto resident...<p>In my opinion G20 is one of the most violent protest I ever seen in Toronto, Being a Toronto resident I was very appalled by how the police handled the situation and seemed to become a power struggle between them and the community.</p>slot makinaları commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0148c79c656f970c2011-01-14T16:29:44Z2011-01-14T16:29:44Zslot makinalarıhttp://shine.yahoo.com/channel/none/online-slots-casinolar-turkce-slot-makineleri-2440154/Great photos. Provoke emotions. Thanks.<p>Great photos. Provoke emotions. Thanks.</p>dave commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f5918770970b2010-11-04T02:45:54Z2010-11-04T02:45:54Zdavestop calling the protestors anarchists. i was there and i saw very few anarchists, the the majority of the black...<p>stop calling the protestors anarchists.</p>
<p>i was there and i saw very few anarchists, the the majority of the black bloc was anarchists either, nor am I.</p>
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</p>fuck the pigs commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f44a63c4970b2010-09-16T15:21:59Z2010-09-16T15:21:59Zfuck the pigsThe captions on these photos are ridiculously stupid and assuming. Anarchists? thats a ridiculous statement to make obviously trying to...<p>The captions on these photos are ridiculously stupid and assuming. Anarchists? thats a ridiculous statement to make obviously trying to make anarchy look bad. does anyone want to mention the police brutality!? who cares about some massive corporation's shops thatll be fixed up with all the money of everyones they have, what about these corporate funded pigs using violent force on people.</p>Thomas commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485f018e0970c2010-08-02T15:11:40Z2010-08-02T15:11:40ZThomasI hate when violent protestors are automatically called ''anarchists''. They may be anarchists, but anarchists are not all like them....<p>I hate when violent protestors are automatically called ''anarchists''.<br />
They may be anarchists, but anarchists are not all like them.<br />
It's only a tiny part of the anarchist movement that causes the trouble.<br />
The vast majority of anarchists are normal people who won't set your car on fire in the name of their ideology.<br />
But even a peaceful, quiet and honest anarchist won't be taken seriously because the public thinks that anarchists are violent, lazy and disturbing. I can understand the people who think like that: that's what the see in the media, and when the media is your only source of information...</p>Dorian Discord commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f2c8ddf4970b2010-08-02T01:43:31Z2010-08-02T01:43:31ZDorian DiscordThe people that you call "anarchists" represent the thought patterns of maybe 1% of those who believe that government is...<p>The people that you call "anarchists" represent the thought patterns of maybe 1% of those who believe that government is not necessary, and in fact gets in the way. The majority of us do not believe that violence is necessary to effect the changes we seek. Instead we need to spread our message, inform the People, and help them to understand that the way things are right now is not the way it should be.</p>
<p>What do you call government, if not wrong and immoral? They write laws, which are nothing more than words on paper, and these laws are not passed by the common man or woman. They are passed by the so-called Elite, those with the wealth to buy their positions. If you think I am wrong, try running for Congress without accepting money from anyone.</p>
<p>The common man and woman are the majority, yet the minority of those with wealth and power make our decisions for us, and we let them do it. We smile, and applaud, and cheer at the loss of our personal freedoms for so-called security.</p>
<p>Anarchists think this is not the way it should be, that everyone should make the choice, and you call us wrong, and violent, and losers. You think we are cowards, and rejects, and imbeciles.</p>
<p>The United States Government, supposedly "For the People, of the People," can come to your home and tell you to leave. Though you've paid your taxes, and bought the land, they can come and kick you off of it, claiming Imminent Domain, that your property must be seized for the betterment of the American People. Sure, you get paid for your land...but often not what it's worth. That does not even mention uprooting your family and leaving all your memories behind.</p>
<p>The idea of "Property" is inherently flawed anyway. You can say "I own this land" all you want...but your "ownership" is nothing more than paper and ideas. You will not "own" it when you are dead. You do not "own" it now.</p>
<p>I am an American. I was born here, and raised here, and have lived here all my life. My government is no better than crooks and bandits. They steal from us, take what we have gained as our own, beat us, imprison us, and send us to die.</p>
<p>Ever been to court? Have you ever tried to voice your honest opinion, and your beliefs, and been told "you're out of order" or "shut up or I'll have you imprisoned?" Oh...sorry, the term is "held in contempt." They are one and the same, it seems.<br />
What makes a judge so special? Sure, they are elected...but when was the last time you saw an honest-to-gods blue-collar worker as a judge? Someone who sees life from the (general) level of those being brought in to court? Someone who knows what it means to work for your money, to earn your living with the sweat of your brow and the strength of your back?</p>
<p>The difference between our government and bandits is...the bandits don't generally use the "it's the law" excuse. That's about the only difference.</p>
<p>Do not mistake me, there are good things about our government. I just can't, for the life of me, figure out what they are.</p>IresearchmyfactsbeforeIcaptionaphoto commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485ea7132970c2010-08-01T18:14:14Z2010-08-01T18:14:14ZIresearchmyfactsbeforeIcaptionaphotoThose "anarchists" are not true anarchists. They are simply vandals. Anarchists don't indiscriminately destroy property. They want order without a...<p>Those "anarchists" are not true anarchists. They are simply vandals. Anarchists don't indiscriminately destroy property. They want order without a government, not random chaos. Maybe a real anarchist would destroy a building or property, if it was a government building or property. But even then, that's a very extremist anarchist. The captions are painting anarchists in a terrible light (as the media has done for very long due to misunderstanding anarchy and anarchist views), and should be edited to read "vandal(s)," "criminal(s)," or "rioter(s)" in place of the word "anarchist(s)." While I do not agree with anarchist views, I think they ought to at least be shown correctly and not have a bastardized form of expressing oneself masquerading as anarchy.</p>IndividualismSpeaks commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485e1816f970c2010-07-31T01:40:34Z2010-07-31T01:40:34ZIndividualismSpeaksThis isn't anarchy, it's chaos. Anarchy means "without leaders", not "without order".<p>This isn't anarchy, it's chaos. Anarchy means "without leaders", not "without order".</p>The Alaskan commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485d244df970c2010-07-29T06:07:10Z2010-07-29T06:07:10ZThe AlaskanI had seen a rather different story of the Black blockers the so called "anarchists" , that 'they' were in...<p>I had seen a rather different story of the Black blockers the so called "anarchists" , that 'they' were in part perpetrated by police officers to get reason and pretext for shutting down the legitimate protesters. I don't see any why the public opinion accepts state violence against protesters upon the basis of damaging property to be met with state organized violence. </p>
<p>Oh this is corporate media, so we must do some public relations work as well, </p>Rachel commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485d0a143970c2010-07-29T03:04:54Z2010-07-29T03:04:54ZRachelAnarchists are a joke. What are they trying to prove? Just a bunch of punk kids wanting to smash windows...<p>Anarchists are a joke. What are they trying to prove? Just a bunch of punk kids wanting to smash windows and feel big about themselves. Oh, yeah, what a great movement you have going on... people are bound to support you! </p>Scott commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485c76b5b970c2010-07-28T17:25:30Z2010-07-28T17:25:30ZScottthe black-clad 'anarchists' at these types of events have often been shown to be police officers. this is why you...<p>the black-clad 'anarchists' at these types of events have often been shown to be police officers. this is why you never see pictures of them getting a good ol' hippy beat down from the cops. whether they are trying to incite the peaceful protesters to join in the mayhem, or just giving the guise of a need for riot police flooding the streets and interfering (often violently) with a peaceful protest against globalization the misrepresentation of the protesters is appalling. sort of an ass-backwards version of The Yes Men.</p>Pieter Deurloo commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f2a288b0970b2010-07-28T16:01:42Z2010-07-28T16:01:42ZPieter DeurlooBlack Blocs like that Give anarchists everywhere a bad name, we're not all like that, most of us are just...<p>Black Blocs like that Give anarchists everywhere a bad name, we're not all like that, most of us are just normal people who go about normal lives while asserting that the world probably doesn't need government or a ruling class. However, even though the anarchists started it, the police did continue the violence on innocent peaceful protesters, which is unforgiveable.</p>It shouldn't be this difficult to get along with each other. commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485c68584970c2010-07-28T14:54:34Z2010-07-28T14:54:34ZIt shouldn't be this difficult to get along with each other.Yes that man in the 27th photo really looked like he needed immediate subduing. What a brave and heroic officer,...<p>Yes that man in the 27th photo really looked like he needed immediate subduing. What a brave and heroic officer, pushing an old man to the ground while hiding behind a gas mask and riot helmet. Careful officer! That newspaper he's holding could be a dangerous weapon!</p>mike commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f2a134f7970b2010-07-28T11:36:37Z2010-07-28T11:36:37Zmike>hippies, druggies, lazy bums who just want to smash and steal Looked like a determined group to me. Not condoning...<p>>hippies, druggies, lazy bums who just want to smash and steal</p>
<p>Looked like a determined group to me. Not condoning what they did, but I doubt they were any of what you listed above. Well, except for the smashing part.</p>
<p> I am a nonviolent person and teach my children that violence is wrong. But I understand what Anarchists protest- it's authority over society, whatever the source (statism and corporatism cover most of it). They're angry. Their reaction is misguided, but it's the sort of thing people do when words don't suffice. Especially when their words question things a lot of us simply accept as the way things are.</p>
<p>You can let yourself understand something without condoning it.</p>Jen Smith commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f2a0d3e0970b2010-07-28T09:44:07Z2010-07-28T09:44:07ZJen SmithWhy doesn't anyone know what anarchy is???<p>Why doesn't anyone know what anarchy is??? </p>lynx commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f29f62fb970b2010-07-28T03:44:02Z2010-07-28T03:44:02Zlynxhttp://emceelynx.comI agree with whasayu. wearing black clothes and smashing things doesn't make you an Anarchist any more then wearing a...<p>I agree with whasayu. wearing black clothes and smashing things doesn't make you an Anarchist any more then wearing a suit and tie makes you a Conservative. The media's consistent use of the word Anarchist to describe anyone and everyone commuting acts of property destruction is dishonest, disingenuous, and just plain lazy. Having been an active participant in the anarchist movement for over 14 years I can tell you without a shadow of a doubt that many of the peaceful protesters are anarchists (and many more would identify as such if they had a better understanding of what that word actually means), and many of the people in black are nothing even close to being anarchists (though of course many are). making blanket assumptions about people's ideologies based on their clothing is pretty much guaranteed to result in inaccurate reporting.</p>
<p>In other words the world is a complicated multifaceted place and reporting on it accurately requires at least a basic understanding of who and what it is you are covering. It's a sad statement on the state of north american journalism that so few news organizations bother to do so </p>Garry commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f243b529970b2010-07-13T21:46:40Z2010-07-13T21:46:40ZGarryWhat happened to the Stockaids of old... I bet that would stop those roudies. Put them in a Public Stockaid...<p>What happened to the Stockaids of old... I bet that would stop those roudies. Put them in a Public Stockaid for people to see and throw eggs and tomatoes at. That kind of Humiliation goes a long way.</p>Chan commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0134851a5b8a970c2010-06-30T04:38:53Z2010-06-30T04:38:53ZChanhttp://ironmiller.tumblr.com/post/748079786/im-not-a-number-im-a-free-man-oh-waitHere is my cousin's story regardinwhat happened there, and interesting an eye opening reading I may say myself http://ironmiller.tumblr.com/post/748079786/im-not-a-number-im-a-free-man-oh-wait<p>Here is my cousin's story regardinwhat happened there, and interesting an eye opening reading I may say myself<br />
<a href="http://ironmiller.tumblr.com/post/748079786/im-not-a-number-im-a-free-man-oh-wait" rel="nofollow">http://ironmiller.tumblr.com/post/748079786/im-not-a-number-im-a-free-man-oh-wait</a></p>Alonzo Riley commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0134851a1dbf970c2010-06-30T03:28:17Z2010-06-30T03:28:17ZAlonzo Rileyhttp://john-riley.netI hope those who feel black block tactics are somehow cowardly spread that logic to the other group that happens...<p>I hope those who feel black block tactics are somehow cowardly spread that logic to the other group that happens to be dressed in black. The riot police enjoy the same benefits that any "uniform" provides: anonymity and group cohesion, to name just two. </p>
<p>How is it that the "good citizens of the world" always feel so much outrage that others are outraged. If there were no resistance power would have nothing to fear. Government systems are not so stable as they appear and must contend with the difficulty of maintaining a consensus. </p>JB Cosell commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f1f3aa29970b2010-06-29T23:03:14Z2010-06-29T23:03:14ZJB CosellCurrent score at the end of the first quarter: Police State: 8, Dumb Hippies: 4 "We thought the car was...<p>Current score at the end of the first quarter: Police State: 8, Dumb Hippies: 4</p>
<p>"We thought the car was worth 3 points", offered a disappointed anarchist,"...but apparently if you dont flip it, its just worth 1. Plus they said Coffee Shops windows are worth less this year than back in Seattle. Banks are now worth double. Man, I can never keep track of the rules. But I think its a good start."</p>
<p>"We're thrilled to be hosting the event this year," Toronto's Chief of Police said. "We feel our police are as least as capable of senseless brutality as London, Seattle, and other previous winners. Canada has kind of an unfair reputation as being passive, hands-off kind of guys. Well, I promise you, that's going to change! We even got some women in the riot gear this year, which I think speaks well for our diversity program. They have real talent kneecapping with the batons."</p>
<p>While the G20 Summit has often been criticized for an overabundance of "economic" and "fiscal" commentary by organizers, distracting fans from the action on the field, this year promises to maintain its reputation for infuriatingly-inarticulate anti-capitalist slogans, and quality truncheoning of self-righteous teenagers. "I've been a fan of protests since Chicago '68", said one new participant this year. "I mean, I wasnt born yet, but I watched it on TV. That one was a classic. I finally got my parents to let me come to this one because, they were like, 'Canada? That place is harmless! Go for it.' They even got me a new Che T-shirt. I havent washed it in a month. The 'new shirt' look is very uncool." </p>
<p>Police for their part appeared to be enjoying the event, although some criticized the quality of the opposition. "These guys used to be serious. Its not like they even have a plan anymore. They send in the wave of old hippies, which is usually like a blocking strategy, and then the black-shirts go for the Starbucks windows. Duh! These punks have nothing on the Greeks. Those guys burned *whole buildings*. These kids are pushovers. I think its all the video games, junk food. They dont exercise."</p>
<p>Asked to explain their banner, "Money is Bad", one group, Vegan Lesbians For the Liberation of Palestine, explained that they'd traded socks filled with rocks for it. "We're going passive-agressive this year. We're going to chain ourselves to mailboxes and sing Rage Against the Machine songs". When questioned on points of international fiscal policy, one offered, "I keep reading about this thing being about economics. What the hell did economics do for anyone! This is about the people, and the spirit, the good times, getting high on tear gas, and the after party!" Asked about their opinion on the role of the global leadership summit, there was a universal complaint that, 'they should be more involved'; "Its not fair they all just sit up in those offices and watch. One, I think they should sell the box seats to anyone, not just politically-connected people, and two, i think it would be awesome if they went at it too. Dude, if we can get Chavez to play with us, you think Obama would throw down?"</p>Ariel commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef013485181b1f970c2010-06-29T19:55:01Z2010-06-29T19:55:01ZArielThe pictures are excelent but the captions are terrible. Protesters did not "clash with police" they were attacked and arrested...<p>The pictures are excelent but the captions are terrible. Protesters did not "clash with police" they were attacked and arrested at random. The black bloc where the only violent ones, with a few minor exceptions.</p>J. Wright commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f1f23f20970b2010-06-29T18:01:13Z2010-06-29T18:01:13ZJ. WrightThese people accomplished nothing except to make themselves and our Country look bad to the world. That and a huge...<p><br />
These people accomplished nothing except to make themselves and our Country look bad to the world. That and a huge repair bill for both the city and private citizens who own businesses in the area. Interesting that Marijuana is illegal, but the protest against our weed laws that thousands took part in this spring, was TOTALLY peaceful...just a lot of smiling, laughing and munchies. Maybe if some of these people had smoked up before they went, things wouldn't have gotten so out of hand. It's hard to be angry when you're giggling.</p>Rob commented on 'Peaceful beginnings, violent ending as G20 protests grip Toronto'tag:typepad.com,2003:6a00d8341bf8f353ef0133f1f23c69970b2010-06-29T17:59:06Z2010-06-29T17:59:06ZRobthat "proof" of rubber bullets are tear gas guns<p>that "proof" of rubber bullets are tear gas guns</p>